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Tech Talk => Engine Mechanical / Electrical => Topic started by: Brian241 on May 21, 2023, 06:22:58 PM

Title: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: Brian241 on May 21, 2023, 06:22:58 PM
I am having issues of running very rich and fouling plugs boat runs ok on the trailer I can very faintly here a slight miss when holding Rpms around 3k once it?s in the water it wants to hesitate and miss bad once u really get into it , has a 396bbc .06 over mild build
With a stage 4 cam engine pro performance camshaft ,Holley 670 carb 72/78 Jets mechanical secondary?s in the picture that was a brand new plug ran for about 5 min no black smoke ,Hei distributor brand new rotor ,cap , new module all spark plugs look exactly the same ,mixture screw are half turn out timing at 15 degrees at idle 35 all in compression about 150 psi all cylinders
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: 77fordwind on May 22, 2023, 04:39:21 AM
What's your timing at? Do all the plugs look like that?

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Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: eliminator18 on May 22, 2023, 07:22:00 AM
Are the float levels in the carb adjusted right?


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Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: Brian241 on May 22, 2023, 08:06:02 AM
15 degrees timing at idle 35 all in ,all plugs exactly the same , I?m not sure exactly what the float levels are suppose to be at first carb engine I?ve had but they are set basically at the very top of the sight glass has a Holley carb
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: eliminator18 on May 22, 2023, 09:02:47 AM
The fuel level should be at the middle of the sight glass on the carb. If it?s at the very top of the sight glass it?s set too high and that?s more then likely your issue.


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Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: mash on it on May 22, 2023, 10:07:05 AM
It sounds like your idle air bleed adjustment is out of whack too.
Get the fuel bowl level addressed first and then your idle air bleeds.
You stated half a turn out, and as a starting point, should be a turn and a half out. Then adjust from there, in small increments.

Q-jet, 2bbl 2gc, Holley, Edelbrock, john Deere, Briggs and Stratton carbs, the starting point is a turn and a half out.

Hope this helps.

Dan'l
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: 77fordwind on May 22, 2023, 10:26:40 AM
Ahhh didn't read the post fully, I had a backfire on mine last year that messed up the floats level nd burned half my plugs.

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Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: Brian241 on May 22, 2023, 10:31:33 AM
Okay I?ll do the bowl level , what would happen if it?s to full? It?s not coming out of the overflow tubes at all , and on the idle mixture screws one side seems to not do anything all the way in or back it out a few turns idle doesnt change at all,  1 screw each side for idle/air adjustment
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: 96Laveycraft21Xt on May 22, 2023, 10:50:33 AM
Okay I?ll do the bowl level , what would happen if it?s to full? It?s not coming out of the overflow tubes at all , and on the idle mixture screws one side seems to not do anything all the way in or back it out a few turns idle doesnt change at all,  1 screw each side for idle/air adjustment

if it is too full it will flow out of the boosters long before it will flow out of the vents as they are much lower.  typically the secondaries will spill before the primaries.  with the air filter off you will be able to see them leaking/spilling.  even on the trailer you could probably see it if someone wiggles the boat/trailer.

that is a problem with the idle screws.  the two that arent working should be inspected. 


New carb? old carb?

Mechanical or electric fuel pump?  What is the fuel pressure?
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: Brian241 on May 22, 2023, 11:14:16 AM
Oh ok I will check and see if it?s doing that not 100% sure on how a carb works , Mechanical fuel pump about 6.5psi on fuel pressure gauge that we just installed , old carb from the part numbers I looked up it?s looks to be a really old Holley not sure on the condition of it but it does look a little dirty by the air bleeds maybe rebuild time ?
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: 96Laveycraft21Xt on May 22, 2023, 01:00:42 PM
Oh ok I will check and see if it?s doing that not 100% sure on how a carb works , Mechanical fuel pump about 6.5psi on fuel pressure gauge that we just installed , old carb from the part numbers I looked up it?s looks to be a really old Holley not sure on the condition of it but it does look a little dirty by the air bleeds maybe rebuild time ?

Do you have the part # handy for the carb?  You said its really old but i didnt think older carbs have sight glasses in the bowls, just inspection screws.....

did you just put this carb on the boat or is this a "new to you" boat?
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: Brian241 on May 22, 2023, 02:14:56 PM
I?ll get a part number in a bit for u  , this is a new to me boat
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: Brian241 on May 22, 2023, 04:35:34 PM
6r8026b is the only number I can see maybe p38 also and 7a choke horn is cut off
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: Brian241 on June 21, 2023, 06:16:35 PM
Fresh carb and fixed some wiring runs great now
Title: Re: Running very rich and misfiring
Post by: 96Laveycraft21Xt on June 23, 2023, 01:44:00 PM
Fresh carb and fixed some wiring runs great now

great to hear.  didnt feel like chasing an old carb? haha
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