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Ok, here we go !! This is my new 1973 Eliminator Sprint. I bought the boat from Busby last Sunday and had lots of fun :banghead: getting it home . Its a project , with a few small issues, but I love the shape of this hull and it was cheaper/easyer than doing the work to convert my Lancar from the Jacuzzi YJ to a Berkeley pump.
The plan is to use parts from the Lancer (motor,etc.etc) and parts from my collection ::) to get this thing done in time for the Parker trip ( about 2 months ) . Its going to be a 2 seater (I have no kids and my friends/leaches can buy there own boats >:D) I got tired of people showing up empty handed and with empty pockets wanting to go to the lake.
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My first step was to get the old carpet out and see what I have to work with.
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I was a little confused as to why the inside of the bottom was smooth ( no sighns of the strakes ) so I started sanding off the old glue and paint and found this !! Wood floors :o .
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So now I need to decide if I'm going to show the floor ;D or carpet back over it :'( ? The stringers are going to show / no carpet . Day 2 and I'm behind schedule already :-[ .
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i would sand down to see the wood to check for any discoloration in the wood....(delamination)....and then i would show the floors.....i love balsa floors.
it baffles me that people actually carpet over balsa floors...why?! ???
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Show the wood if it's good, if not carpet it for this year. My boat is supposed to have Balsa floors but the guy before me said that he carpeted the floors because they were so slippery. :sly:
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Thanks guys , I agree. I love the look of the wood floors. But its not the carpet that scares me as much as the 2 layers of paint under the glue >:( . I guess I see lots of sanding in my future, because I realy want the wood floor to show. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that i dont find any big ugly delamination spots.
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If you want to find discolored wood start sanding towards the very back or at the very front where water wood sit at. ???
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The previous owner had carpet, and had used some SERIOUS glue to hold it down. I think it was tile adhesive (or at least I swear it was something close).
I got pissed and took the easy way out. If you have the time and tools ... it would look great with sanded floors, I do not think yoiu will find delamination ... if you do, it will be very small.
BB
p.s. ... looks like a good start
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I say carpet it and leave it for the summer. Remember the sun is out and I don't see any rain in my forcast and I know you live about an hour from me. Sanding is for winter time when it's raining and there is nothing on TV.
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I say carpet it and leave it for the summer. Remember the sun is out and I don't see any rain in my forcast and I know you live about an hour from me. Sanding is for winter time when it's raining and there is nothing on TV.
+1 you'r gonna spend two weeks if not longer just prepping the floor, there is ALOT of glue and paint to sand down! And just like waxing a car, you dont realize the size of the job till you start and then its too late to stop :banghead:
I say carpet it, and put that thing of beauty in the water ;D
At least one of our boats has to get wet ;)
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+2, save it till the winter, run it this season and find all the things you want to change and make a list, then you have the winter to get it done, can't wait to see that thing in parker ;D
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Well i understand what you guys are saying about leaveing it till winter, but if i dont do it now it will never get done ::) .
I say carpet it, and put that thing of beauty in the water ;D
At least one of our boats has to get wet ;)
2sav
2sav you better be kidding about selling your boat >:( !!!!
Tonight was the night to go after the spots that scared me the most ( do the worst parts first and the rest will be easy, right ? ). This boat origanaly came with fiberglass fuel tanks and it looked like thay realy didnt want them to move. The remnants of the glass that mounted the tanks was still down there along with a realy thick coat of resin (at least 1/4in) running all over the place for no reason.
Its realy not as bad as it looks in the pics , the dark areas are the areas of the thick resin (so thick it looks amber colored)
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This is how thick the resin/glass was that mounted the tanks . Luckily it didnt bond verry well to the hull.
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Btw. there is somekind of gooey layer under the glue and paint on the floor, its black and clogs up sandpaper as fast as I can change it :banghead: . Looks like somekind of undercoating the orig owner may have sprayed on or maybe its just glue , who knows at this point . The good news is its under all the other lavers, and I was able to strip it all off at once by useing a scraper, with out doing any damage to the glass . It came off kinda like scrapeing a gasket :-\ .
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That looks like a biatch of a job. I want to do the floor in mine also. Keep on keepin on.
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Change of plans >:( , The floor is ugly. Its not the pretty balsa stuff , it looks like plywood :banghead:. So, it gets carpet again. And the stringers have lots of old holes from the original seats and stuff from over the years that need to be pluged , so I dont think thay will be to pretty either. I think I'll just paint them black.
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Well I fixed the delaminated spot on the stringer today. I cut out the bad spot, the wood was still fine (solid). Than I ground back the good glass and reglassed that area, looks ok and sounds solid again ??? . I still need to go through and plug/fill all the old holes in the stringers.
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This is the main reason Im going to paint the stringers !! STAPLES were used to hold the carpet at one point in its life. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: Thay were not from Brian/Busby, thay were under the paint/glue.
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Now for a question !
I'm a little confused about were to place the motor in this boat. In my old boat the back of the motor is 16'' from the transome, but Brian said he had his motor 30'' from the transome in this boat and it liked it there. Of course he had something like 1700 HP (blown alcohol motor) and I will only have around 500 to 550 for now. So what do you guys think would be a good place to set the motor ? I dont mind it being forward , its only going to get 2 seats and one fuel tank (between the stringers behind the seats) . Some people say set the motor as far back as possible, yet at the races I noticed some boats like lilricks with long driveshafts and the motors set forward ??? ???
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Only from what I have been told and read...
Drag boats usually will place their engine towards the back more and circle boats more place the engine more towards the center of the boat.
... whatever that's worth. :-\
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Thats what I thought too ??? . But this was a drag boat :-\
Pic from when Busby owned the boat
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Thats what I thought too ??? . But this was a drag boat :-\
Pic from when Busby owned the boat
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did you get the dolly trailer with the boat? never mind i remember about the fenders coming off on the freeway
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Now for a question !
I'm a little confused about were to place the motor in this boat. In my old boat the back of the motor is 16'' from the transome, but Brian said he had his motor 30'' from the transome in this boat and it liked it there. Of course he had something like 1700 HP (blown alcohol motor) and I will only have around 500 to 550 for now. So what do you guys think would be a good place to set the motor ? I dont mind it being forward , its only going to get 2 seats and one fuel tank (between the stringers behind the seats) . Some people say set the motor as far back as possible, yet at the races I noticed some boats like lilricks with long driveshafts and the motors set forward ??? ???
I would put it at about 25" ... putting the motor forward will assist in getting the weight off of the back of the boat, placing the center of gravity (CG) forward more. Back in the day (70's and 80's) drag boats used to have to "fly the nose" to air out the boats for less drag. Now we have learned that moving the motor forward and changing the hardware, it will allow the boat to run flatter while still being able to create enough lift to have little to no drag.
So, be it a circle jet or drag jet, having the motor forward more and as low as possible will be better for the CG, therefore making it a safer and better handling boat.
did you get the dolly trailer with the boat? never mind i remember about the fenders coming off on the freeway
That's the same trailer, and it's still set up for being a dolly ... he just needs narrower axles ;D
Looks good Jeff!
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hmm, i need a dolly trailer, where are the axles?
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The motor in the Liberty is 26" from the back of the transom. If Brian says 25", go for it. Just remember, you may have to build your owm driveline, and if you plan on BIG horsepower in the future.....Well, build it big.(1350 u-joints) The big u-joints make the drive line really easy to remove also!!
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hmm, i need a dolly trailer, where are the axles?
I put them on my Hydro trailer and the Hydro's axles onto the Jet trailer.
Dycorp in Anaheim sells them for something like $125 each? They sell all the parts needed to do the swap, I'll come by and help if you want ... super easy.
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Thanks Brian and lilrick. Funny thing is, I was thinking about putting it around 25/26'' or maybe a little more just because of the header length. I guess Rewarder made them the right length ;D. Thanks for the info, its nice to know Im on the right track !! And yes thanks for the tip, I will use the 1350 u-joints, I dont need to have problems later.
hmm, i need a dolly trailer, where are the axles?
Ralph, this trailer has some realy cool hidden features ;D Brians "crew" made the swing-away tounge and inside of it there is still the reciever for the long dolly tounge, and this cool little wheel piece plugs right in too. Verry cool !!
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About all I got done tonight was to drill and plug all the old mounting holes in the stringers , I drilled them all out to 1/2'' and pluged them with 1/2'' dowels dipped in resin (had to use a hammer to tap them in) . Next thing to do is grind the outside a little and glass them in.
Its not much but its progress ;)
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Just a thought when plugging holes I was told to mix in some cabosill in with the resin so it fills in the cracks n such. Cabosill (sp????) Thickens up the resin so it is easier to shape, and stays in the hole better. It makes the resin the constancy of peanut butter depending on how much you mix in.
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Just a thought when plugging holes I was told to mix in some cabosill in with the resin so it fills in the cracks n such. Cabosill (sp????) Thickens up the resin so it is easier to shape, and stays in the hole better. It makes the resin the constancy of peanut butter depending on how much you mix in.
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Yeah ... Cabosil is a lightweight silica thickener used to reduce the flow of epoxies on vertical surfaces, as well as filling pinholes & holding plug in place ... they created it for the aircraft industry back in the 50's.
Mix it into your resin mixture to the consistancy of pudding and it will give you a nice sandable filler (once cured) to put in holes along with the dowel plug.
Looks good Jeff ... now you need to block out those stringers and paint them glossy black! Blacked out stringers are sick!
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Looks good Jeff ... now you need to block out those stringers and paint them glossy black! Blacked out stringers are sick!
Yea, thats the plan for now.
Not much new to report. Just sanding away and removeing glue still :( . But I did pick up these today, 8''x50'', a little smaller than I wanted (about 11gal each I think) but the filler necks line up perfect with the spot on the hull where the old caps were.
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On a sad note :(
I've been spending most of my time with a verry sick friend :'( http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=3352.msg47316#msg47316 . The vet says shes not sure if hes going to make it through this one because of his age ( he seems to be giving up ) :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Hey buddy sorry to hear that, :'( :'( :'( :'( Mark
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On a sad note :(
I've been spending most of my time with a verry sick friend :'( http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=3352.msg47316#msg47316 . The vet says shes not sure if hes going to make it through this one because of his age ( he seems to be giving up ) :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Sorry to hear that Prop, my dog is 14 also and is half blind, half deaf, and sleeps all the time...Probably just a matter of time. Had him from 6 months till now...Feel for ya!
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sorry to hear about your buddy prop, hope all is well
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Thanks for the suport guys !! Its been a tough weakend. Hes going back to the vet in the morning (not doing well) , but enough about that, I dont want to cry every time I look back at this thread later if things dont go well. :'(
I did take some time and work on the boat today. I cut some LARGE drain holes in the stringers (nothing should plug these up >:D ) . The great news is this thing has some realy solid stringers . This always seams to be a trouble spot on stringers and these were perfect (no rotten wood) ;D . Its amazeing to me thay have lasted this long and are in this good of shape, this thing is a 73 ( its older than my last 3 GFs ::) ) And I'm almost done preping the stringers for a new coat of glass. Now the floor is another story :screwy: , thats takeing alot of time because I want to start fresh (so many old coats of glue and goo) .
Two months to go till Parker, and The Old School Eliminator's commin ta get ya 2sav >:D
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stringers, almost ready for glass. no more holes ;D
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Another question !! This hull has no crossbrace between the stringers (front of bilge area). It looks like it had one in the past , maybe Busby removed it because of his motor placement. Should I replace the wood one ??? I will be running a verry strong rail kit in there (full length rails) and could add some crossbraces to that :-\
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... This hull has no crossbrace between the stringers (front of bilge area). It looks like it had one in the past , maybe Busby removed it because of his motor placement. Should I replace the wood one ??? I will be running a verry strong rail kit in there (full length rails) and could add some crossbraces to that :-\
Looks real good. I don't think I've seen a V bottom jet boat not have one of those cross braces just ahead of the engine. A friend of mine has a Eliminator and it does have a crossbrace. No plywood/floor in it though. Flat bottom v-drives, my tunnel hull, most tunnel hulls, do not have a cross brace.
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Flat bottom v-drives, my tunnel hull, most tunnel hulls, do not have a cross brace.
Good point, I never thought about flatbottoms not haveing them and my Daytona dosnt have one :-\
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I took it out because I wasn't going to be running on the river with it, it was going to be less than 30 second passes in it.
I would glass one back in. It won't be a structual piece, more of an insurance to keep water/oil out of your carpet in case of a motor issue deal. (hopefully that won't happen)
Having the bilge board will keep any water where it belongs ... in the bilge area (make sure you drill a 3/4" hole in it for a removeable transom plug)
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Update !! The glue is all off the floor. ;D ;D I hate carpet glue/contact cement !!! This was a horrible job (removeing it), the glue was at least 1/4 in thick in places and buried under what I think was a layer of ruberized undercoating :screwy:. There is still some left on the sides but that wont take long to get off ::).
Its dusty but its makeing progress , I think .
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I'm still undecided about what to do with the floors :-\ . Some parts look ok and other parts look cloudy (thick layers of glass ??? ) and the whole thing shows shiney strands of glass when you get it wet in the sun . :(
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I'd dump glue all over it and carpet it. J/K!!!
Looks great in the pic.
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I'd dump glue all over it and carpet it. J/K!!!
Looks great in the pic.
LOL , The funny thing is if I cant figure out some way to make it look good than thats what I'm going to do :screwy: . It just pisses me off to think about it !!! :mad: :mad: :banghead: :banghead:
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I've heard of people complaining that wood floors get slippery when they're wet, I dunno I've never had wood floors. A great looking wood floor looks great. :screwy:
I've had carpet, carpet with GM engine's. :banghead: Oil will weaken and stain carpet.
The black (paint? flowcoat?) floor in mt boat gets hotter than a Tijuana hooker's kooch after years with the drips. >:(
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I've had carpet, carpet with GM engine's. :banghead: Oil will weaken and stain carpet.
Yea, Ford oil does the same thing . :sly:
The black (paint? flowcoat?) floor in mt boat gets hotter than a Tijuana hooker's kooch after years with the drips. >:(
Maybe if you ever put your boat in the water it wont be so hot ::), just a thought . ;D ;D
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Rhino line the inside. You could just hose it down when it gets dirty.
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hmmm, I wonder if thats what was over the old glue . I'll check it out and see what colors I can get. ;D
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Im going to end up rhino lining the inside of my little boat this winter I think.
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How much will the Rhino Lining cost to do your floor?
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Carpet the son of a bitch!!!!! ;D Looks like the Bahner will be waiting on you BIG DOG >:D
I did my whole boat with Marine grade for $150 including a gallon of glue...
So whats it gonna be?? well there is always the next couple of years to get it done :o J/K
There is too many pro's and con's trying to decide , Wood floor or carpet. All have good points and bad!!
My solution........ Get drunk, say fug it!!!!! and go buy some damn carpet ;D GET R DONE.........
My .02
2sav
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Yea I know , but sometimes I get something in my head and just cant give-up on the idea ( wood floors ) . I just hate the dirty oily carpet in my old boat !!! And the wood is sooooo pretty. Someone told me it would be easyer to add a wood vaneer (sp) over the old stuff and that sounds like a better solution for this ?? What do you guys think ? It looks like to be able to show whats there I would have to strip off all the old glass and reglass the whole floor and stringers (not going to happen).
I now know this thing will not make the Parker trip :banghead:, but I only want to do this once . I still have the Daytona to do next winter, so its now or never for these floors :screwy:.
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Well the Eliminator isnt the only boat not going , the Bahner is not going to show up either...
Still have too much to do , and money is getting tight soooooooo............. now im back to baby steps :banghead:
Good luck with it..
2sav
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what else do you need 2sav ???
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what else do you need 2sav ???
Post up a new list of what you still need 2sav , I have a good sized pile-o-parts now , at least one of us should make it to Parker :( .
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My vote would be to black out (paint or flow coat) the stringers, bilge, bulk head and transom and carpet inside/outside the stringers with grey carpet. Of course you'll need to add a bilge board between the stringers at the front of the engine area ... black that out too ;)
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Well look who came to visit ;D. Whats up Brian ? Do you miss your old baby ? Sorry but the red/orange/yellow strips are gone now ;). And trust me you should have removed all this old glue and extra resin along time ago (it would have been faster >:D) . I dont know what this thing weighs but it is alot lighter than my old boat , I noticed today that it wasnt quite centered on the trailer . So I just grabed it by the opening in the transome for the pump and picked it up and moved it :o
Btw, Brian do you have any old pics of it back when you ran it ?
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Got a delivery from Ironman today ;D , two 8' rails (2 1/2" angle) and some extra for whatever I need to use it for ;) . Yea its overkill but this thing will be strong !! Got them just in time , his work was cutting them up for scrap today :screwy:
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Yep, that is some heavy duty aluminum thats for sure. I picked up some for some rail kits that I will be making. Sure was a shame to cut it up for scrap. I probably cut up 400' of it but I stashed some in the shop just in case ;)
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Thanks to Billy / ironman I got some work done today, he came over and made me get off the couch :-\ .
The dash needed some help !! It was set up for center steering, and when I removed the alum pannel I could tell it would never be strong enough to survive. With the original holes and the last set of holes the dash looked like swiss cheese :banghead: . So out came the power tools >:D . I cut the glass from the back, and removed the old wood (not fun) while Billy and Mark / Sanger Pete supervised. After a few hours of cutting and hammering and sanding the dash wood was gone and it was ready for the new wood. I cut and trimmed a piece of scrap wood I got from my neighbor (the wood worker) . Than I went to get the glass matt and resin and remembered I used all the matt on the bulkhead :banghead: . Oh well, done for the day, but ready for the next day ;) .
The swiss cheese dash, and the new wood
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I realy dont want to have to tow your ass around just so you can get your ride on the water ;D so get off the computer and get your friggin boat done already.
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I realy dont want to have to tow your ass around just so you can get your ride on the water ;D so get off the computer and get your friggin boat done already.
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I realy dont want to have to tow your ass around just so you can get your ride on the water ;D so get off the computer and get your friggin boat done already.
Cant finish it, dont have any motor plates ::). Get off the computer and go cut my plates >:D
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:( Ok, I'll go work on the dash :-*
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Cant finish it, dont have any motor plates ::). Get off the computer and go cut my plates >:D
:( Ok, I'll go work on the dash :-*
you see, thats what we are talking about, GET OFF THE COMPUTER AND GO WORK ON THE BOAT :D ;D
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GET OFF THE COMPUTER AND GO WORK ON THE BOAT :D ;D
Yeah, what he said........................ ;D
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Yeah, what he said........................ ;D
2sav
::) Look whos talking !! If you spent half as much time on your boat as you do on here you would have had a finished boat 3 projects ago. ;) ;D
you see, thats what we are talking about, GET OFF THE COMPUTER AND GO WORK ON THE BOAT :D ;D
Dash wood glassed in, and one layer of glass on the back :P. And just for you Ralph I'm going to go back out and put another layer on it so its done tonight ;).
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Dash wood glassed in, and one layer of glass on the back :P. And just for you Ralph I'm going to go back out and put another layer on it so its done tonight ;).
thats what im talkin about! now come do my dash too!
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thats what im talkin about! now come do my dash too!
Your is already done, I saw the pictures. ;)
;) The back side is all glassed in, just some trimming left to do. It cost me one t shirt and some hair (fu##### resin) but its done. now I just need to do some filling and smoothing on the front.
Just so you all know, this is the worst job I have ever done !! I had resin running down my arms and all over everything , What a mess !! Next time I'll flip the boat to do a dash !! :mad: No, on second thought, I will never do this again !!!!
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I've got the motor plates scheduled to go on the waterjet friday, so if all goes well should have them by this weekend
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Parts parts I love parts ;D , Thanks Billy. I should be able to make some more progress by then ::)
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::) Look whos talking !! If you spent half as much time on your boat as you do on here you would have had a finished boat 3 projects ago. ;) ;D
I call it steppin stone's my brother ;D
Your is already done, I saw the pictures. ;)
;) The back side is all glassed in, just some trimming left to do. It cost me one t shirt and some hair (fu##### resin) but its done. now I just need to do some filling and smoothing on the front.
Just so you all know, this is the worst job I have ever done !! I had resin running down my arms and all over everything , What a mess !! Next time I'll flip the boat to do a dash !! :mad: No, on second thought, I will never do this again !!!!
I call B.S. Your addicted and you need B.A. Never do it again....I said that 4 boats ago >:D
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Never do it again....I said that 4 boats ago >:D
2sav
Yea, and you still havnt finished one :sly: . Back to the craigslist thread with you Sanford jr !! ;D
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Yea, and you still havnt finished one :sly: . Back to the craigslist thread with you Sanford jr !! ;D
Hell, i may be on #5 here shortly, im probably gonna sell the Bahner and start all over again >:D
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Hell, i may be on #5 here shortly, im probably gonna sell the Bahner and start all over again >:D
2sav's not :screwy:
Yes you are :screwy: !! And I already saw the spy photos of your next project (#5). http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=2841.msg40581#msg40581
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Hell, i may be on #5 here shortly, im probably gonna sell the Bahner and start all over again >:D
2sav's not :screwy:
2 sav=SANFORD
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looking good Jeff!
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Sorry to hear about the pup Bro got one (14.5) thats in similar shape :( Check you PMs
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Just so you guys dont think I've been slacking off , Here are some pics from tonight. Its comeing out ok and should be ready for assembly soon ;D .
And NO I'm NOT putting carpet in my boat !!! ;)
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Hey lookin real good Prop :) Mark
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Very Nice work Jeff !
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Thanks guys , its been a bitch, but I realy like this old hull (its sooo sexy) !!
btw, Tom I almost have my parts order ready.
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Thanks guys , its been a bitch, but I realy like this old hull (its sooo sexy) !!
btw, Tom I almost have my parts order ready.
Hey............Where's the carpet ;D
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hey 2Sav arent ya supposed to be workin on your boat not here ;D ;D ;D
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Hey............Where's the carpet ;D
2sav :D
::) Race boats dont need carpet !!! OOPS, did I say that ? ummm, I ment I dont like carpet because it gets dirty. Yea thats it, no future race boats here, just another old lake boat. ;)
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politacally correct there Prop, too funny ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Are the rails mounted yet ;D
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NO >:(
The stringers are to pretty to drill holes in, so I need to go get some double sided tape and super glue :screwy:
Are you still sitting in your boat listening to your new stereo, and making vroom vroom noises ? ;D
Heres a pic of my new custom rail kit from Billy / ironman. 8' rails and plates 2 1/2 x 3/8 (super strong !!), all countersunk bolts, I just need to drill 20 holes in my stringers now :'(
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NO >:(
The stringers are to pretty to drill holes in, so I need to go get some double sided tape and super glue :screwy:
Are you still sitting in your boat listening to your new stereo, and making vroom vroom noises ? ;D
Heres a pic of my new custom rail kit from Billy / ironman. 8' rails and plates 2 1/2 x 3/8 (super strong !!), all countersunk bolts, I just need to drill 20 holes in my stringers now :'(
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Nice ;D
Now get the drill going >:D
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The rails are done, almost. I am still going to take them back out to do the final finish on the floors and stringers, but all the holes are drilled and they are mounted for now, no thanks to my little helper Leo. ::) I caught him trying to make off with one of the pieces of angle to mount my seats, sneaky little guy ! :sly:
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Looking good bro ;) Sooooo.......... when do you plan on getting it wet? Have you even taken the other boat out for a run yet ???
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Looks fantastic! Keep after it and you'll be on the waters soon. Trust me, everyone here knows how long it takes to go from a hull to a boat. Keep after it and fall back on you "sponsors, (ie, the rest of us)" to keep focused............john
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Looking good bro ;) Sooooo.......... when do you plan on getting it wet?
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Do you mean like a date its going to be done according to a plan ? (https://forum.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff97%2Fpropless%2Flmao.gif&hash=6f5e60ef7050542f4e84b561307b1cc78a3d5b71) I gave up on making plans like that, when its done its done :-\ . I was hopeing for the Parker trip, but nooo, my stubborn as# wanted wood floors :banghead: Labor day, maybe ???
Have you even taken the other boat out for a run yet ???
2sav
If you are talking about the Daytona (there are 3 boats here :screwy:). No , That's next on the project list.
Looks fantastic! Keep after it and you'll be on the waters soon. Trust me, everyone here knows how long it takes to go from a hull to a boat. Keep after it and fall back on you "sponsors, (ie, the rest of us)" to keep focused............john
Thanks John, Its nowhere close to being as cool as your project (that thing is sweet !!), but I love it . ;D
Sponsors :o , Whoohoo !! Its not even done and I have sponsors !! Does that mean the sponsorship checks are in the mail ? ;) ;D
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If you are talking about the Daytona (there are 3 boats here :screwy:).
Yes i know Sanford ::)
I was talking about the one that has a Ferd in it..........
2sav ;D
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LOL. Ohhh, you mean the only one that works around here. Again, no. I spend my time working on the project. Hmmmm, now that I think about it, there's got to be something wrong with me if Id rather stay home and work on a boat than take the running boat to the lake :sly:. I guess I'm just bored with that old boat. Just seems like a waste of gas, money, and time to take it out, its to slow. (stupid YJ pump) :(
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Well today was the day to collect the motor out of the Lancer. :'( Poor old boat, but it will get a new motor some day, just not this beast (way to much power for a YJ). The poor old boat also lost its spot in the garage today, now its outside under the canopy with the project Daytona. I need more room or fewer boats!!
no more motor :'(
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The MIGHTY BBF !!! Just waiting for parts now, OOHHH Billy, GET TO WORK!!! ;D
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And one for 2sav !! >:D The Chevy killer is coming to get you 2sav!!!
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More room ;D ;D :sly:
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WOW Proppy you need some beer signs, girly posters and miscellenous junk in your garage ,its just too clean !!
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And one for 2sav !! >:D The Chevy killer is coming to get you 2sav!!!
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Damn Bro, you crack me up.....Thats some funny shit..... ;D
Hell, my Chevy might just kill itself. But Im not worried as long as its on a stand ::)
Now put it in the BOAT!!!! Oh its looking real good, keep it up ;) Just a shame your gonna ruin a perfectly good boat with a FERD....................
2sav >:D
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Just a shame your gonna ruin a perfectly good boat with a FERD....................
2sav >:D
Shows what you know, you can't even spell it right :screwy:
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propless and 2sav, you guys crack me up :D
cant wait to see the show down ;D
goooooo FORD
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Hey ralph I agree ;D ;D ;D ;DGO FORD !!!!!!!!!!!
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Shows That you know, you can even spell it right ;D
I fixed it ;D
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propless and 2sav, you guys crack me up :D
cant wait to see the show down ;D
goooooo FORD
Show down >:D. Hmmmm, I dont think 2sav / 2scared wants any of this !! But if she does we can work something out !! Whats half way between Bulhead City and Fresno ? >:D ;D
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Show down >:D. Hmmmm, I dont think 2sav / 2scared wants any of this !! But if she does we can work something out !! Whats half way between Bulhead City and Fresno ? >:D ;D
2scared......too funny
Lets do it.......But i dont think that engine stand is sea worthy ;D
Its probably made by Ferd too :o
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But if she does we can work something out !!
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2sav ;D
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Show down >:D. Hmmmm, I dont think 2sav / 2scared wants any of this !! But if she does we can work something out !! Whats half way between Bulhead City and Fresno ? >:D ;D
I'd put my money on a Ford giving a Chevy an ass spanking >:D
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I'd put my money on a Chevy giving Ferd an ass spanking >:D
That would be a wise bet ;D
2sav
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Lets do it.......
2sav
Your on jr !! I'm going to smack that Chevy back onto its trailer so fast you wont know what happened !! (https://forum.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff97%2Fpropless%2Fsmiley_bitchslap6.gif&hash=9fb782bcbc032928a9ac1c861ecb36bcab8e3151)
Pick a time and place , so we can both try and be done by then ::) ;D
I'd put my money on a Ford giving a Chevy an ass spanking >:D
Fixed it, again
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You guy's have to get some new one's ;D
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Because they always let the slower guy's go first.....ha ha Bitches >:D
2sav Im back!!!!! ;D
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2sav Im back!!!!! ;D
you left?
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i think he took some mental time off..... :o
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you left?
Didn't think anybody would catch that ;D
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What a bunch of thread jacking ........... ::)
Well I got a couple boxes of parts from JBP yesterday ;D, so there should be some more progress soon. I'm getting closer ;D
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i think he took some mental time off..... :o
that is what the boat is for....
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Is the Sprint the same as a Schuster or Tahiti?
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I don't know, but I did find some info that says this boat is not a Sprint, the Sprint name came later :-\ , and I was right about it not liking rough water. This is no circle boat !! It needs smooooooth water, just like I thought.
It might be awhile before there is any more progress on this thing, I'm getting tired of looking at it and need a break (way to much of the 2 steps forward and 3 steps back going on :banghead:) . Looks like I'm going to stick to the swimming pool this summer >:( >:(
Propless has left the building ;)
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Mind takin a few measurements? ;D
From dash to tip of bow, and possibly from the bottom of the transom to the top.... if you don't mind
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I don't know, but I did find some info that says this boat is not a Sprint, the Sprint name came later :-\ , and I was right about it not liking rough water. This is no circle boat !! It needs smooooooth water, just like I thought.
It might be awhile before there is any more progress on this thing, I'm getting tired of looking at it and need a break (way to much of the 2 steps forward and 3 steps back going on :banghead:) . Looks like I'm going to stick to the swimming pool this summer >:( >:(
Propless has left the building ;)
2 steps forward and three steps back.............. I feel your pain bro, ive been dancin those steps for the last year :banghead: Taking a break is mentally healthy ;)
Good luck to ya, if you need me to get you motivated again I can do that........My boat ain't done so i still have alot of $hit to talk ;D
2sav
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Mind takin a few measurements? ;D
From dash to tip of bow, and possibly from the bottom of the transom to the top.... if you don't mind
Here you go ,
overall length = 18' 3" (not counting the plates)
tip of bow to back of dash = 8'
bottom of transom to the start of the curve at the top = 19.5 "
and as close as I can measure its a 10 deg V (+or -) at the transom, but it looks like there is less of a V as you move forward (the entry is almost like a flatbottom). :-\
I really don't think this hull is a copy of anything, I have never seen anything like it (the rocker bottom).
2 steps forward and three steps back.............. I feel your pain bro, Ive been dancing those steps for the last year :banghead: Taking a break is mentally healthy ;)
Good luck to ya, if you need me to get you motivated again I can do that........My boat ain't done so i still have a lot of $hit to talk ;D
2sav
Thanks 2sav. As you very well know, sometimes you just have to walk away for a little while before you do something bad ;)
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Agreed.........Take a break for awhile, and don't let no body give you no shit for it........you hear me Bitches..........Thats my job ;D
2sav Peace out.........
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Well this isn't real progress but I did something today. I modified the patterns for the motor plates to fit in this stupid boat :banghead: , now Billy can use the modified patterns to make a custom set that will work in this thing (just have to wait for some open time on the water jet) . This hull has some really weird angles in it, and I set the rails to high :banghead:, so a custom front plate is needed.
But I like what I'm seeing ;D ;D
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Hey Propless
Looks to me like you're making good progress--easy for me to say. It amases me how the mind works--when you finish, you're going to have so much fun talking about the project and spending time at the lake that you will forget all the depressing negatives (late nights, itchy fiberglass, things that won't fit, blown budget, ...) while putting it all together. In fact, you'll probably think about how much fun it was to build your own boat, and when you will do it again. Ask me how I know this to be true.
No raggin', just encouragement. I'd really like to see that boat running next month.
Mark--"Sanger Pete"
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Proppy , Have to admit (after yesterday) your losin your cherry on a tough project ,just imagine how easy the next one will be Tom
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Propless, what Tom means is the next one will be just as difficult, but you will be more experienced and it will go quiker/easier, so they tell me ::)
Its a lot like hitting youself in the face with a ball peen hammer, it feels great when you stop! ::)
Looks cool 8)
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Hey Propless
Looks to me like you're making good progress--easy for me to say. It amases me how the mind works--when you finish, you're going to have so much fun talking about the project and spending time at the lake that you will forget all the depressing negatives (late nights, itchy fiberglass, things that won't fit, blown budget, ...) while putting it all together. In fact, you'll probably think about how much fun it was to build your own boat, and when you will do it again. Ask me how I know this to be true.
No raggin', just encouragement. I'd really like to see that boat running next month.
Mark--"Sanger Pete"
Thanks Mark, I'd like to see it running next month too ;). When it is running us locals need to plan a trip together. I still haven't seen your V-drive cruiser ;D ;D
Proppy , Have to admit (after yesterday) your losin your cherry on a tough project ,just imagine how easy the next one will be Tom
Yea, this one is a bit## , I told you it had some strange angles in it :banghead: . And as far as the next one being easyer :screwy: . You do remember what the next one is, right? :banghead: :banghead: ;D
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Propless, what Tom means is the next one will be just as difficult, but you will be more experienced and it will go quiker/easier, so they tell me ::)
Its a lot like hitting youself in the face with a ball peen hammer, it feels great when you stop! ::)
Looks cool 8)
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OK fair enough, but In Tom's defense, he didn't buy this :screwy:
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=4192.0 (http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=4192.0)
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Well lets not get crazy now. I like that one, looks like something I'd drag home ::). Lots of potential there, just needs a few parts and a little cleaning ;) . I think I saw that one on craigslist a while back and thought about it, but had to many projects already. ;D
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I have new parts !!! ;D ;D The motor plates are here and they fit. I just put them on to check and make sure all the holes lined up and the starter was good (this is the first set of BBF plates Billy/ironman has made) and every thing looks perfect !! ;D Now I just need to use the patterns I made to transfer my cuts onto the new plates and start cutting them to fit the boat. Should be able to have it in the boat today :o :o . But than I will still take it all back apart one more time to polish everything and do the final finish on the floors.
Also got all my new parts from Jet Boat Performance this weak, new steering, new cables, really cool transom fittings for the cables, steering extension, angle mount for the helm, pto, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,,,,,,,, it was a long list . ::) And I'm sure I forgot something (good thing shipping only takes one day to get to me ;D) .
Here's some pics of the motor plates ( I think these plates might be tall enough to work in tunnel boats too, I should go measure the Daytona >:D). Billy makes them with lots of material on them so you can trim them to fit anything. And just wait till you see the flex plate cover hes making for me (its sooooo cool !!!)
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Just as a side note, I found out that these BBF crank pulleys are two pieces and if you only need one belt you can separate them and have a single groove pulley. There are a couple small spot welds , drill through the back side of the pulley on the welds (just drill through the unwanted pulley, not all the way through) and use a chisel to separate them ;) .
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That looks badass!. Polished or powdercoat? (I favor polished on that setup) would look cool in silver powder....
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Its just bare alumininumum for now ;), once everything is cut to fit and mounted and double checked three times I'll pull it all out and polish everything :screwy: . I know it will be a bit** the keep it pretty but I like it 8)
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Just as a side note, I found out that these BBF crank pulleys are two pieces and if you only need one belt you can separate them and have a single groove pulley. There are a couple small spot welds , drill through the back side of the pulley on the welds (just drill through the unwanted pulley, not all the way through) and use a chisel to separate them ;) .
Now I'll have to go look at mine and think about making that change. I hate the extra pulley there, it looks like you forgot to put it all together.
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Here's a couple shots of what I did (the pulley)
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As long as I'm being a post whore today here's some shots of the motor , IN THE BOAT !!!!! :o :o :o The plates are all cut and trimmed up , I'm just going to wait for Billy to look at it and double check the angles before I drill for the mounting blocks. Better to check ten times than have extra holes ;) .
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Oh yea, I need to get an oil filter relocator kit (it hits the rails) , but I wanted one anyway ;) .
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Nice work!. Hey, when your all done there, come on over, I got a couple of "tasks" for ya! ;)
If you're going through all of the plumbing trouble of an oil filter relocator, it is a killer time to add an oil cooler! :sly: You may not need one but it lets you run the engine a little warmer while still keeping things under control.
IMO it depends how hard you run'em and for how long...
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If you're going through all of the plumbing trouble of an oil filter relocator, it is a killer time to add an oil cooler! :sly: You may not need one but it lets you run the engine a little warmer while still keeping things under control.
IMO it depends how hard you run'em and for how long...
I thought about an oil cooler, but I really don't want to go into the motor right now to up the oil pressure (pumping losses from all the added length) , but I think I'll be ok with just the remote filter as long as I keep the lines short (might put it on the front of the front motor plate :-\).
As far as how hard I run it, well, lets just say it doesnt have an easy life ::) ;D . But it was built to handle me, and I only run it hard for a short time.
This is from when it was in the old boat :o :o >:D MIGHTY BBF POWER BABY !!!
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Hey man i got to tell ya , you are really kickin some azz here.... She's looking great. Maybe that little break you took brought everything back into perspective again.... Hell just a few days ago, i got so frustrated after going over a list of what i need to buy still............I put the Bahner up for sale....Why, cause im an idiot... Im closer than ive ever been, and i phukin love my boat ;D
Really looking forward for one day when we meet, and have the boats side by side, with a beer in hand and a smile on our face saying...............We phuckin did it :D
MIGHTY BBF POWER BABY !!! ............Now thats funny O0 Did you hit your head again ???
2sav
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Here's a couple shots of what I did (the pulley)
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one good smack with the hammer and chisel and it was apart
Now that looks a lot better. I'll have to make that modification one of these days soon.
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Oh yea, I need to get an oil filter relocator kit (it hits the rails) , but I wanted one anyway ;) .
or you can use a short filter like this
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i found no oil pressure difference in using it, its a k&n 3001 i think
but know that i think about it your stringers may be closer together than mine ???
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This is what I put on my BBF.
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i used one of those....cast aluminum oil filter relocation kits and at castiac i blew it off the block :o the damn thing pulled the threads right out. this was with 60lbs of pressure, maybe i just have bad luck :-\
so know i only use billet stuff for my oil system
http://www.petersonfluidsys.com/index.html (http://www.petersonfluidsys.com/index.html)
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Ralph, Maybe you just got one of the bad ones. My oil pressure is at around 80 and it seems to be holding. I have noticed some leakage around the remote oil filter fittings.
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Ralph, Maybe you just got one of the bad ones. My oil pressure is at around 80 and it seems to be holding. I have noticed some leakage around the remote oil filter fittings.
you mite be rite ;) but it only takes once for me especially with my oiling system ;D
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Well, maybe on my SBC I'll go for the tough parts just to make sure it all holds together. I know, it's a Chebby but I think it will do the job I want to accomplish. Once I've reached my goal with that, I'll sell it and get another BBF, if I can find one in decent shape and a good price.
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or you can use a short filter like this
i found no oil pressure difference in using it, its a k&n 3001 i think
but know that i think about it your stringers may be closer together than mine ???
Thanks Ralph , I didn't think of that. My stringers are 26" apart, but I used 2 1/2" angle for the rails. So I have 4 3/4" +/- room for a filter, I could also just notch the rail a bit :-\ . But it did always bother me trying to change the filters when there angled like that (I'm messy and I always fill the filter with oil before putting it on ::)). Ive seen the cheapy adapters come apart too, but I cant remember witch ones it was that are junk, might just break out the credit card and go with the billet stuff to be safe.
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yeah it used to be messy for me too, until, Josh at JBP told my dumb ass to put the filter in a bag then take it off :banghead: :banghead: damn why didn't i think of that ??? (thanx Josh ;))
and on the race boat i still had to notch the rail to allow the hose to come off the filter pad
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i used one of those....cast aluminum oil filter relocation kits and at castiac i blew it off the block :o the damn thing pulled the threads right out. this was with 60lbs of pressure, maybe i just have bad luck :-\
so know i only use billet stuff for my oil system
http://www.petersonfluidsys.com/index.html (http://www.petersonfluidsys.com/index.html)
Ok, looked at this web site... What did you buy to move your oil filter? ???
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see the notch, you could probably do it different but i used the fittings i had on hand = cheap ass :D
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Ok, looked at this web site... What did you buy to move your oil filter? ???
see the pic above
the filter is from peterson =pricey
filter pad is from earls =not so bad
you dont have to get the parts from there, just make sure the peices are billet. Tom at JBP could probably get them for you at a fair price
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I'll do that when I go to put the Chebby together. Thanks
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If you just need it out of the way of the rail this might work, its a 90 degree adapter
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Jegs has em, they cost a few bucks but they keep it extremely simple http://www.jegs.com/p/Ford+Racing/748369/10002/-1
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As far as the pulley goes , my pulley and my balancer are the same piece.
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Well I had a change of plans with the pulleys ::) , Billy/ ironman and I created this a couple nights ago, so no more ugly alt on the front of my motor ;D ;D ;D . Now we just need to come up with a cool (easy) way to mount the alt back there (its always good to plan these things out in advance ::) ;D )
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Can't remember the name of the company, but they make a really cool stringer mounted alt bracket for Vee drives, I'm going to grab my old catalogues and find it. Vee drives sometimes use this setup. I really want to say its Glenwood, but fuzzy memory.
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Hmmm, If someone made one at one time than Tom should have it in the JBP attic storage ::) , maybe I'll give him a call. ;D
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Think I might actually have ya covered on the Alt delio got to go to the shop to get the Big boat after a bit I'll "research" the Vault ,we rerigged a TX 16' a couple years back that had an alty mt on the motor rail to drive line Tom
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:banghead: :banghead: I knew I should have called you Tom. Anyway, heres what I came up with today from the boxes of leftover parts around here ::) . I used one of the old cav plate adjusters I had laying around and a little chrome alt bracket from Kragens (total cost $14 ;D ). Looks like its working ok so far . But now I think I need to do something about that fugly old alt (nice chrome one ;D ) , but that can wait, this ones works and it fits.
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Back to the garage now to figure out somekind of battery mount and a few other things ::)
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That's Badass, looks totally like it belongs there. The only change I think I would have made would be to flip it around to make a shorter path fo the electrical and protect from the belt a little better, (opinions are like a**holes, we've all got em).
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If you mean flip the alt to the front side of the belt, I thought about that :-\ . But I want to make somekind of driveshaft hoop and it would have been it the way. The drive shaft is long enough to reach the hull when conected to the motor and that scares me :o :o .
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MyBadd! continue on sir!
Here is a ruff sketch of the hoop we have used in the WW boats, bolts like a motormount to the rails.
Uses a 3-1/2" 1/4" wall piece of aluminum pipe around the shaft, worked sweet.
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That's a great idea GT Jets !!! I was thinking something similar but without the pipe, but I really like the idea of the pipe ;D . Safety first ;) ::), just the thought of that drive shaft breaking loose and flailing around back there at 6000 rpm (breaking the pump the intake or ripping a hole in the hull) was enough for me to say I wont run it without a drive shaft hoop and a strong flex plate cover. You never know what could happen, and I really don't want to have to send divers after my boat :o.
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I scrounged up some material for the transom plates and got them cut out tonight. I made patterns out of masonite first (same thickness) than just transferred the shape to the aluminum and cut it with my new jigsaw ;D, (the old one died a sad and smelly death trimming the motor plates ;) ). Still have a little more trimming to do but there close.
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The fit on those came out great. :o
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Wow Jeff ... it's coming along quite nicely!
Sorry for all of the headaches :-\
It sure does look good though, you're doing a great job!
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Thanks for the kind words guys ;D
Brian, the headaches are part of the fun, right ??? ???.
I got everything around the pump mocked up and ready to come back apart for polishing, now on to the drive shaft hoop, battery mount, brackets to mount the diverter handle, throttle, steering, wiring, gauges, etc, etc, etc :banghead: :banghead: . If this thing is not on the water for Labor Day the motor is going back in the old boat and this one will be FOR SALE >:( !!!
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Almost forgot, Thanks Tom / Jet boat Performance for getting all the little parts (I forgot to order the first time) to me so fast ;D. You guys (and gal) are the best!!!
But I still didn't get a sticker !!!! :mad: :mad: Tom, I'm going to steal the stickers off your boat at San Antonio on Labor Day >:D
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I like the alt placement, I am just wondering how well they hold up to being very wet. I get waves over the back regularly when the wakeboard boats go by, and the water can get pretty deep back there when you "accidentally" take off with the place divertor pointed up ???
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:-\ I didn't think about that :-\ . Thanks for pointing that out, better to do something about it now before there's a problem. Looks like I just found another part to make (big splash guard). Me and my bright ideas :banghead: .
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Stickers are headed your way Proppy .Always happy to help love to have the "advertizing" ;D
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A little more progress ;D .
The pump brace / drive shaft hoop is mounted (what a bit## !!!), but it fits perfect. Now I can tension the alt belt without pulling the pump to one side :o :o .
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Brackets for the batt and the diverter handle are done and mounted. Excuse the mess, it was late :-[
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We also made the mounts for the ride plate adjusters today. So that's all ready to go together, I just need to get some bolts for it (pics to come). Only things left are to mount the seats , finish the ride plate, and cut the dash for the steering / gauges. Than pull it back apart,finish the floors and put it all back together again :banghead: :banghead: . Its getting there ;D ;D
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That things taking shape! :o, Looks more like a boat than my project... :banghead:
Keep up the workmanship, can't stop now ;)
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Giting her done!!
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Your cool Tach mount will be there tommorow (love mine) ,and yes theres progress!! plenty of time to make SA ;D
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:( That was a secret :(
Thanks Tom, I was really happy / surprised when Rhonda said they still make new ones. No "old skool" project would be complete without a deck mounted tach ;D ;D
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Thre's no such thing as a secret around here (one big disfunctional family) we will find out, besides, we have 82Daytona to do "cloaked" drive by's :sly: ;)
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Here's some more progress pics ;D I got sick of the mess in there so first I cleaned up the metal shavings :-[ than went to work ;D
Dash panel made, gauge holes cut, and helm mounted . Tom, I love my deck mount tach !!!
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Ride plate is mounted and the brackets for the turnbuckles are made. Still need to get some angle to brace the plate.
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The seats and diverter handle are also mounted now. The pass seat sucks (build very crooked) , looks like I need to get in touch with Skip (Luckystiff) this winter for some new seats. :banghead: More money in this thing.
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I think I can finally see some light at the end of the tunnel :-\ , and its the bright glow of the mighty BBF getting ready to kick some Chevy ### 2sav / bahner boy (or whatever your calling yourself today) !!!! >:D
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:( That was a secret :(
Thanks Tom, I was really happy / surprised when Rhonda said they still make new ones. No "old skool" project would be complete without a deck mounted tach ;D ;D
that's it i'm pissed :mad: you get to talk to the owners wife and i allways get the damn owner on the phone :banghead: >:(. im gunna call and complain to the customer service rep josh ;) and we will see what happens now, boy heads are gunna roll :D :)
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Oh btw , The boat killed another power tool today, that makes 3 !! One belt sander, one jig saw, and now one drill . I was drilling the holes for the gauges (strange smell filling the air :-\ ) when all of a sudden smoke starts pouring out of the drill :-\. It started going slower and slower but my dumb a## just sits there looking at it and pulling the trigger over and over until a huge ball of sparks came shooting out of it :o !! At which point I threw it across the garage ::) I showed it who's the boss >:D .
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Oh btw , The boat killed another power tool today, that makes 3 !! One belt sander, one jig saw, and now one drill . I was drilling the holes for the gauges (strange smell filling the air :-\ ) when all of a sudden smoke starts pouring out of the drill :-\. It started going slower and slower but my dumb a## just sits there looking at it and pulling the trigger over and over until a huge ball of sparks came shooting out of it :o !! At which point I threw it across the garage ::) I showed it who's the boss >:D .
hehehe, now thats good stuff
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that's it i'm pissed :mad: you get to talk to the owners wife and i allways get the damn owner on the phone :banghead: >:(. im gunna call and complain to the customer service rep josh ;) and we will see what happens now, boy heads are gunna roll :D :)
Yea , that's why your parts take a weak to arrive and mine are here the next day, got to know who to be nice to ! :-*
BTW. Tom, I still didn't get a sticker !!!! :mad: :mad: That's it, I'm calling Rhonda tomorrow, your in big trouble now >:D ;D
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Yea , that's why your parts take a weak to arrive and mine are here the next day, got to know who to be nice to ! :-*
BTW. Tom, I still didn't get a sticker !!!! :mad: :mad: That's it, I'm calling Rhonda tomorrow, your in big trouble now >:D ;D
HA, i gots lots of stickers
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HA, i gots lots of stickers
:mad: Yea, Yea, Yea, But you dont have this one ;) 8)
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:mad: Yea, Yea, Yea, But you dont have this one ;) 8)
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lol, i'm off to bass lake and you my friend are going to work :D :D
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lol, i'm off to bass lake and you my friend are going to work :D :D
>:( >:( That's just not right !!! >:( >:(
Hopefully see you next weekend at SA. Have a good trip ;D
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After reading about a few members hooking up there steering backwards (no names to protect the innocent ::)) I went out and looked at the distructions for mine , yes its already mounted http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=3365.msg67952#msg67952 , and no i didnt look at the distructions before . Its a good thing I didn't look at them before !!! The instructions show to drill the 3 mounting holes for the helm UPSIDEDOWN :screwy: :screwy: . Mine is right , I hooked up the cable to be sure. ;D
The instructions must be for boats with right side steering ??? ???
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After reading about a few members hooking up there steering backwards (no names to protect the innocent ::)) I went out and looked at the distructions for mine , yes its already mounted http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=3365.msg67952#msg67952 , and no i didnt look at the distructions before . Its a good thing I didn't look at them before !!! The instructions show to drill the 3 mounting holes for the helm UPSIDEDOWN :screwy: :screwy: . Mine is right , I hooked up the cable to be sure. ;D
The instructions must be for boats with right side steering ??? ???
Now thats a perfect reason to never read instructions.
When all else fails i look at the pics :D
She's looking good............. ;)
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Instruction sheets are for troubleshooting when the bastard don't work ;)
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Here it is guys all mocked up and ready to come apart for polishing and the final finish on the floors ;D ;D ;D. The only things I'm still missing are a flywheel cover and a foot throttle. Need to get a hold of ironman and crack that whip >:D >:D . Oh yea , and a few little things like fuel/water lines bla bla bla ;).
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Sexy ! I'm jealous .
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Details Schmetails ;D That thing looks ready for buisness, well almost, sans hoses, throttle and stuff. ;)
Looks badass propped! O0
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i like ;) :D ;D
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lookin good ;)
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Wow talk about nice!
That is definetely a boat to be jealous about.... gonna turn some heads with her
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Dayum brother......... Thats nice ;) Now get it wet :sly:
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She turned out real nice. Like I said before, I am glad you saved her from my brother-in-law's driveway. It was bound to sit there forever waiting for him to put it together.
Great job, now lets see some running shots! And for heaven's sakes, don't sell her! She'll treat you right on the water.
Many, many good times in that ride for years and years, now it's your turn. ;D
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She turned out real nice. Like I said before, I am glad you saved her from my brother-in-law's driveway. It was bound to sit there forever waiting for him to put it together.
Great job, now lets see some running shots! And for heaven's sakes, don't sell her! She'll treat you right on the water.
Many, many good times in that ride for years and years, now it's your turn. ;D
Thanks Brian and everyone else, but its not ready yet. Started taking it back apart last week. to finish the floors and polish all the aluminum :banghead:. And theres still a couple things to figure out / make.
Sell her :o :o . Never (I'm not 2sav) ;D. I was hoping to have it back together for the November NJBA race in Bakersfield, but now I think that race is canceled. :-\ . Would have been a good time/place to do some testing on it (safer than the lake, and lots of help around if I need it ;)) .
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Old School: ;D
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WOW Brian, You really had that motor set forward !!
Anyway, just so you guys don't thing I'm being a total slacker. I finally finished polishing the motor parts. And the done pile of other parts is growing :-\ . It should be going back together soon, I will have this thing ready for the Tom Papp memorial gathering on Jan 10th !!!
The upper part of the T ram was a BI### !!!! The inside is great but the outside looked like they used a butter knife to carve the mold :banghead: :banghead: , but its done.
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Damn proppy, hope it runs as good as it looks ;)
Gotta go put my pump back in now............
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x2 what kind of hp is it going to make,and size of carbs
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Damn proppy, hope it runs as good as it looks ;)
Gotta go put my pump back in now............
GT
I just hope it still runs ;D And what time are you showing up to put my pump back in. ???
x2 what kind of hp is it going to make.
I really don't want to take any guesses at this point. I know what desktop dyno says but we will see. :-\ . This is the first time it will have a good pump behind it, along with finally getting the intake/carbs it was meant to have. So, now I will finally be able to tune some power out of it. ;D ;D
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And what time are you showing up to put my pump back in? ???
A couple of hours after all of my projects are done and caught up ;)
GT
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A couple of hours after all of my projects are done and caught up ;)
GT
Well that wont take long. I'll but the beer on ice now. ::) ;D
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Well that wont take long. I'll but the beer on ice now. ::) ;D
Sweet ;D
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After reading about a few members hooking up there steering backwards (no names to protect the innocent ::))
Hey Brad (Mr. Moderator)......please delete Proppys thread cuz........uh........ Cuz he's pissing my off!!! How's that? ;D
Boat looks awesome Proppy but I'm telling you, you're missing some fine boating by having your steering hooked up correctly.
Happy T-day..........john
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WOW Brian, You really had that motor set forward !!
I told you I did ... but it needed it.
I'll be glad to see it on the water again. It'll be cool.
I'm really glad you got her and are finishing her up.
See you in a few weeks!
Brian
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Progress, (finally) the floors are DONE !!! Not perfect but it will have to do for now, I have less than 4 weeks before the Tom Papp memorial event and I really want to take this thing. I really need to get it in the water by the 1st to do a leak test and hopefully set the water to the headers etc, etc. So unless the "jolly fat man" is bringing me fuel lines, Christmas is canceled >:D .
this pic looks funny (the black in the center) because its reflecting the ceiling.
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It is smooth and shiny (for the most part ::))
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looking good, keep up the great work :)
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looking good, keep up the great work :)
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Nice! Jan 10 is coming soon, you gonna make it?
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tell that "jolly fat man" thats bringing you fuel lines to bring me a new motor
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Thanks for the compliments guys. And Skip, I dont know if I'll make it or not ,but I'm going to try !!
A little progress tonight. A quick re polish on the rails and mounted them, set the motor plates in just to see how it looked.
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stop polishing and start wrenching, elsinore water is gunna fork that polish up any way :-\
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Oh, you want him to put it in the water?
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Oh, you want him to put it in the water?
yup your rite, v-drive guy in training :-X
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Thanks for the compliments guys. And Skip, I dont know if I'll make it or not ,but I'm going to try !!
A little progress tonight. A quick re polish on the rails and mounted them, set the motor plates in just to see how it looked.
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I need a couple of those fuel tanks. :)
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Wow... Thats is really nice ..... My hats off to you proppy , lots of hard work and time put into that..
She's gonna look sweet on the trailer :D
J/K :-*
Now stop polishing stuff and just put it together O0
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stop polishing and start wrenching, elsinore water is gunna fork that polish up any way :-\
Oh, you want him to put it in the water?
yup your rite, v-drive guy in training :-X
V-drive guy in training >:( >:(, ummm, well, ok, maybe. But shiny parts make the boat faster. And I wont go anywhere with an ugly boat. 8)
Wow... Thats is really nice ..... My hats off to you proppy , lots of hard work and time put into that..
She's gonna look sweet on the trailer :D
J/K :-*
Now stop polishing stuff and just put it together O0
I know I must be reading this wrong, because I'm sure Bahnerboy is out working on HIS project instead of wasting time on the computer trying to be funny. :-* ;D
I'm going back to the garage now. More update shots later.
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Dash is done, gauges mounted, helm mounted, tach done.
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And yea the dash is angled just perfect the reflect the sun directly in my eyes. :banghead: I guess I'll paint that piece before summer. :'(
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This thing has been driving me crazy !!! I screwed up during the mock up (didn't put a gasket between the intake and suction housing) and its just enough of a difference that the pump brace and transom plates don't quite fit now :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :mad: :mad: :mad:. Two steps forward and three steps back !!!
Got the pump in and fixed the brace, tomorrow I'll redo the transom plates.
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A Lot of progress today, Billy / Ironman made a flex plate cover, a loader and a cool fuel distribution block for me. Now I have a new stack of parts to polish :banghead: . The good news is the motor is back in, the bad news is I have less than 2 weeks to get it done. Still need to do the wiring, plumbing (fuel and water), and rebuild the carbs, plus a couple other things I cant think of right now (to tired).
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BTW, I don't like the new color of the motor, but it matches the dist cover and the seats.
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proppy, looks good but, unless you are a die hard chargers fan ??? that color is gay. ask me how i know
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so i did this instead
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Yea, the color is NOT what i was expecting. I should have got the dark blue one. :mad: But its not comming back out now. Besides, I thought you socal types down there would like that kind of thing. Maybe it would look OK if the boat was pink? >:D
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Besides, I thought you socal types down there would like that kind of thing. Maybe it would look OK if the boat was pink? >:D
haha my wife wants me to paint one of the boats pink :banghead:
proppy, looks good but, unless you are a die hard chargers fan ??? that color is gay.
X2... but then you'd have to put a lightning bolt on the bow and fly a flag off the rear. :sly:
safe call with the black ralph
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That thing is looking very BITCHEN!!! good work!
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Hey proppy, that be an alternator for your charging system that you are running of the pump ??? ??? I be curious cause I have not seen that before :screwy: If so what be the benefits ??? Mark
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Yea, that's the alt. No real benefit that I can think of for having it there, other than cleaning up the front of the motor a bit, and less things it unhook if I need to pull the motor. Now if I could just figure out how to eliminate the water lines. ;D
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Yea, that's the alt. No real benefit that I can think of for having it there, other than cleaning up the front of the motor a bit, and less things it unhook if I need to pull the motor. Now if I could just figure out how to eliminate the water lines. ;D Thats funny about the water lines ;D Are you able to somewhat hide the wires also ??? Definately makes the front of the engine look clean. For me tho my back
bench seat hides the front of mine, so wouldnt do me any good. But does look really look cool tho ;D
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bench seat hides the front of mine, so wouldnt do me any good. But does look really look cool tho ;D
ya it looks clean. i like it
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Ok you need to get this thing wet and let me know what I need to do/not do with mine. I finally got it back to Iowa and can't wait to get underway on the rebuild. But, I was hoping you'd already have figured out what i shouldn't do that you might have done. Other than polish the tunnel ram. That looks killer but I don't like pretty enough to put all that extra work into it. Your's is looking good though. Maybe sometime in the year 2020 or so when mine is done we can run them both together.
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Oh great, someone else to give me crap about it not being done (just what I need) ::).
JK, SnoC653. Glad you finally got yours home and welcome to the Oldskool Eliminator club. ;D How does it look in person ?
For those that don't know, SnoC653 picked up this one and has some future plans of possibly going circle racing with it (if I remember right).
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Oh great, someone else to give me crap about it not being done (just what I need) ::).
JK, SnoC653. Glad you finally got yours home and welcome to the Oldskool Eliminator club. ;D How does it look in person ?
For those that don't know, SnoC653 picked up this one and has some future plans of possibly going circle racing with it (if I remember right).
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The hull is solid with no visible delam. The pump turns free but I'm thinking it will get a setback and a whirlaway. The boat needs the rubrail seam capped and the floors redone. So I'll probalby fill the dash holes and start with a blank slate. The boat will probably be painted back yellow as that is the main color I see under the red paint. As I was driving back with Art's old Bissi in tow also the paint and name came to me based on the underlieing yellow. Art looked the boat over and he said the design and layup should work to turn circles safely (well as safe as any racing boat) although he said performance was dependent on setup (intake angles and placement) and HP (isn't it always). I guess when it all goes back together we'll see what the mighty mopar can lay down. In any case it is a good start and should make a fun toy.
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Glad to see you made it back with the new project! looking good Tom
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The hull is solid with no visible delam. The pump turns free but I'm thinking it will get a setback and a whirlaway. The boat needs the rubrail seam capped and the floors redone. So I'll probalby fill the dash holes and start with a blank slate. The boat will probably be painted back yellow as that is the main color I see under the red paint. As I was driving back with Art's old Bissi in tow also the paint and name came to me based on the underlieing yellow. Art looked the boat over and he said the design and layup should work to turn circles safely (well as safe as any racing boat) although he said performance was dependent on setup (intake angles and placement) and HP (isn't it always). I guess when it all goes back together we'll see what the mighty mopar can lay down. In any case it is a good start and should make a fun toy.
::) Been there done that (go back a few pages :banghead:) . Glad your happy with your new toy. It will be cool to compare some angles (intake/amount of rocker) between the two.
Now back to my junk, here's the new flex plate cover Billy / Ironman made for me. I also picked up a loader, a fuel distribution block, and a bracket to move my throttle away from the stringer from him. And I have a set of used headers coming from Tom (JBP) , I'm going to save the twistys for something else (I just don't like the way they look on this boat). I have to admit, without Billy / Ironman and Tom (JBP) this thing would never have gotten this far, as well as everyone on here keeping me motivated.
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Now for the bad news, I'm done for a while. I'm not going to make the Tom Papp event and this thing is getting out of hand (or I am). I was looking at it tonight and started thinking how the T ram needs nice new Allen head bolts and it needs to be repolished :screwy: :screwy:. I realized I'm getting more and more picky/anal about this thing every day. If you look at the pic, I even painted the bolts and spacers on the cover and motor plate ::). Then I noticed the black ones on the valve covers, well, that will never do ::) :screwy: . I just need to throw the cover on it and walk away for a bit. Maybe I'll go build some seat frames for the Daytona :-\ .
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build it now...make it pretty later.
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The detail your putting in the boat looks great,I'm sure you'll be more then happy by taking your time and working the fine detail work out.
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build it now...make it pretty later.
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build it now...make it pretty later.
Yeah, because that always works................. :screwy:
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Well I got back to work on it again.
Water lines = done
Fuel pump / reg = done
Fuel lines = done
Throttle pedal mounted = done
Used headers ( out of the infamous Jet Boat Performance rafters ) = almost done, there cleaning up better than I thought they would Tom. ;D
I got rid of the Tstat housing looking thing (ugly) and made a flat plate. also moved one of the dump lines to the drivers side of the motor (looks better / more even). Made a bracket to mount the fuel press reg (driver side of T/ram). Fuel lines go back from the reg and through the center of the T/ram into the dist block Billy/Ironman made me.
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Here's the bracket Billy made me for the old throttle pedal.
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Fuel pump. I cant believe it bolted up there and the brackets holes lined up perfect with two of the bolts for the transom plates ( It was all planned that way of course ::)) ;D
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Now just wiring and rebuild the carbs. I'm NOT looking forward to doing the carbs, I hate them and they hate me !! Every time I touch carbs they dribble fuel from somewhere when I'm done. :banghead: :banghead:
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Lookin good proppy, let me know if you need a hand rebuilding those carbs...
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All the wiring is done, only the carbs and some misc left to do. ;D ;D
But I have a question, I wired my kill switch to kill the ignition. And after I was done I thought about the fuel pump (separate switch). Should the kill switch shut off the fuel pump too??
Kill switch
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Batt disconnect switch
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Switches, 1 = ign, 2 = fuel pump, 3 = bilge pump, starter button.
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Dash, looks empty with no switches or ign switch. ;D
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when i had an electric pump i wired it to the kill switch because im dumb and could see myself forgetting to shut it off
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Good point Ralph, I could see myself doing that. ::) I guess I'll go change that. :banghead:
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My fuel pump is wired to a relay off of the ignition and a separate switch that cuts power to the power pole of the relay, no way to forget (wife and friends sometimes drive the boat), seems to work really well, the last three boats I did had it like this.
Lookin good proppy, I can almost hear it run...
GT
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My fuel pump is wired to a relay off of the ignition and a separate switch that cuts power to the power pole of the relay, no way to forget (wife and friends sometimes drive the boat), seems to work really well, the last three boats I did had it like this.
Lookin good proppy, I can almost hear it run...
GT
now here you go getting all technical and shit :sly:
good advice i just dont know how to do it :-[
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looking proppy, youll be gettin wet before you know it, how about a frontside pic of the dash, that has to look clean with no switches
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now here you go getting all technical and shit :sly:
good advice i just dont know how to do it :-[
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thanx gt right click save
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looking proppy, youll be gettin wet before you know it, how about a frontside pic of the dash, that has to look clean with no switches
I know its back there a few pages somewhere but I dont want to look for it. ;) So, here it is again ;D
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Thanks for the diagram GT, but I just rearranged the power wires, so both switches are fed through the kill switch. I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible (caveman technology). ;D
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I know its back there a few pages somewhere but I dont want to look for it. ;) So, here it is again ;D
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Thanks for the diagram GT, but I just rearranged the power wires, so both switches are fed through the kill switch. I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible (caveman technology). ;D
Caveman good!
I am all about simple, when the mood suits me :sly:
That looks SIK!
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I know its back there a few pages somewhere but I dont want to look for it. ;) So, here it is again ;D
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Thanks for the diagram GT, but I just rearranged the power wires, so both switches are fed through the kill switch. I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible (caveman technology). ;D
i hope you wear sunglasses, its gunna kill you if you dont
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i hope you wear sunglasses, its gunna kill you if you dont
Boats gonna be so scary fast he'll be squinting his eyes anyways :screwy:
GT
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Boats gonna be so scary fast he'll be squinting his eyes anyways :screwy:
GT
I was always told, "don't lift till you see God". Maybe the shiny dash will give me a better view. ;) ;D
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That dash is DOPE! Sorry, late comer to this topic and a little lazy to go back through the pages...but what is that? Stainless? Aluminum? Oh...and I've been looking for one of those tach holder things for a minute...where the hell do you get one of those?
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That dash is DOPE! Sorry, late comer to this topic and a little lazy to go back through the pages...but what is that? Stainless? Aluminum? Oh...and I've been looking for one of those tach holder things for a minute...where the hell do you get one of those?
The dash is aluminum, I had to replace the wood behind the dash (it was cut to be a center steer boat), so, I needed to cover up the body work and didn't want to try to match the paint. ;)
The tach housing came from Tom at Jet Boat Performance ( http://www.jetboatperformance.com/index.php?p=main ). There still available new (as well as smaller ones for the other gauges) and not to expensive. ;D
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Right on, thanks for the info!
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dash looks sweet, simple and clean, i like it ;D
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dash looks sweet, simple and clean, i like it ;D
me 2
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That dash is DOPE! Sorry, late comer to this topic and a little lazy to go back through the pages...but what is that? Stainless? Aluminum? Oh...and I've been looking for one of those tach holder things for a minute...where the hell do you get one of those?
I have one that needs polishing,
Send me your shipping info sucka !
-beerjet-
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I need to give a HUGE thanks Mark (sanger pete) !!
You see, the other day I was tightining down the carbs and heard an verry bad sound, a loud pop. I broke the F...ing baseplate on my older carb :banghead: :banghead: :mad: :mad: . I was telling him (Mark) about what I did Sunday and he said "come on over I have a big box of parts carbs, we can find something that should work". I got over there and he had a complete carb sitting on the bench waiting for me :o :o . I just finished swaping the baseplates and the carb is good as new now ;D ;D
Thank You Mark !!!
I just finished mounting the carbs and made the linkage.
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Funny thing is, I was looking around for what needs to be done next and, guess what , I think I'm DONE !!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm going to drag it out of the garage when I get home from work tonight, take it to the gas station, and then try to fire this bitch up !!! >:D
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Watch out 2sav !! The Mighty BBF is almost ready to kick some Cheby azz !! >:D
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Good job, can't wait to see it. ;D
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What a cool old classic, nice work Proppy
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way to go proppy ;D get some video of the start up if you can. congrats on a job very well done
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Awesome man! That thing looks like alot of fun..... does it still have a turn fin in it?
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Way to go. Can't wait to hear how it handles and runs. Where are you going to set the plates to start off or are they still adjusted from before?
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Hey Proppy, that thing looks badass!
You should be very proud of your accomplishment, good luck with the run in....Mark is the man! 8) O0 8)
Note obama and the secret service ;D
GT
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Sorry guys I cant do video. :(
Tony,(oops, I mean HOLLYWOOD ;D ) I don't care what anybody says this thing never had a fin :screwy:. Trust me, if there ever was one there I would of found signs of it while sanding the floor. The red one that sold on PB a while back didn't have a fin either.
SnoC653, Nice to see you back here. I was thinking to set the rideplate at 2deg up and the outer plates a couple deg down to start, and go from there. :-\ It should be a safe place to start, I think.
Here's the proof, It made it out of the garage tonight ;D ;D !!! And yea, I still need to take over to Ironmans shop to fix the fenders. ::) But, it holds fuel. ;D
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I came home, put it back in the garage, closed the door and turned on the fuel pump, no fuel. :sly: The stupid pump wouldn't prime. I blew into one of the tanks until the pump got fuel and then it started to work, turned it on and off a few times and it worked fine after that. I might need to move the pump, we'll see :-\ . I have few small fuel dribbles to fix around the carbs and the fuel pressure wont adjust below 10psi. I'm going to swipe the regulator out of the Daytona and try that one.
But, THE BEAST RUNS !!!!! It coughed one minor ball of fire out of a carb then fired right up ;D ;D And I have to say this, FU## single carb tunnel rams !!!! Even untuned this thing sounds sooooooo much better than before, and the throttle response is 1000% better. Looks like I'm going to have to wait till Sunday to do the carb tunning. Its still to dark when I get home from work. And I need to get it outside so I can run some water through it, not to mention this thing is realy f###### loud in a closed garage. ;D
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Dude, I'm green with envy, well that and I've been sick for a week and a half :P
Great job, is mine next? :D
GT
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Dude, I'm green with envy, well that and I've been sick for a week and a half :P
Great job, is mine next? :D
GT
Thanks GT, I just had to run back out to the garage and fire it back up one more time (just to let the neighbors know its alive >:D) .
;D ;D ;D ;D I LOVE THAT SOUND !!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks GT, I just had to run back out to the garage and fire it back up one more time (just to let the neighbors know its alive >:D) .
;D ;D ;D ;D I LOVE THAT SOUND !!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yeah I know... I heard it :o ;D
GT
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way to go proppy, I'll be over sunday to here that beast run. Bout friggin time, now I have to deal with my carb issues and we can go piss of the fisherman at pine flat.... HELL YA......
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way to go proppy, I'll be over sunday to here that beast run. Bout friggin time, now I have to deal with my carb issues and we can go piss of the fisherman at pine flat.... HELL YA......
:-\ You better get out in your garage and get my safty boat running !! I'm ready to GO !!
I just hope it remembers how to float. ::)
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BTW, I just checked--that carb plate is a chevy. Does that mean you're running a hybred?
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BTW, I just checked--that carb plate is a chevy. Does that mean you're running a hybred?
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Well, that would explain the ball of fire from that carb before it started. It was spitting the chevyness out of it. >:D
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:-\ You better get out in your garage and get my safty boat running !! I'm ready to GO !!
No shit...... been to busy making rail kits and custom boat parts for other people to even work on my own crap.. LOL
I just hope it remembers how to float. ::)
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Well, that would explain the ball of fire from that carb before it started. It was spitting the chevyness out of it. >:D
Now thats some funny shiat ::)
proppy's never gonna learn....... that ball of fire was the chevy orange kicken the shit out of the blue ovals azz........
you can no longer can say anything bad about chevrolet, now that you have a Chord :D
Great job and Congrats ;)
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Come on 2sav, everyone knows its a Fordrolet ;D
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Lookin good 8)
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Proppy , set your plates at 0*.
You want the boat to think it's longer than it really is so it'll get on plane really easy.
I think the plates will be fighting each other if they are too far off from each other.
The plates on my hallett were up 1* or so and it came out of the hole really nice and level.
Otherwise Badass !
-beerjet-
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Yea the plate angles dont make alot of sence to me either Omar. But Brian told me he ran the outers down and the rideplate up. Might have something to do with the rocker. Even Greg Shoemaker told me to set outer plates an 1/8" down. ???
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Yea the plate angles dont make alot of sence to me either Omar. But Brian told me he ran the outers down and the rideplate up. Might have something to do with the rocker. Even Greg Shoemaker told me to set outer plates an 1/8" down. ???
Completely forgot about the rocker this thing has
Sexy Proppy!
Sexy !
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Sexy Proppy!
Sexy !
Calm down Omar, I know your lonely now that Brad is in Vegas. But, I don't swing that way. ::) ;D
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I think the 1/8" down helps hold a little air under the edges and keeps the boat up on the spoon more. That is why I really want to see yours running so I can learn a little more before I start adjusting the way mine is put together. Was the pump in yours set back when you got it? I can't recall and it's too late to scroll back through your build tonight. I know my boat doesn't appear to have ever had a turn fin either. It will be interesting to see how well yours turns without one so I'll know if i want to start out with the hassel of adding it. I just can't wait till the day mine rolls out and fires up. I just think your boat has those classic lines and looks nice sitting there ready to go. I'm just a little jealous but also excited to see yours out there and ready to run.
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That would make sence SnoC653. I'm not sure if mine will be much help, I think I'll have alot of detunning to do. Brian was running at least 1000 hp more than me. The pump was set back a long time ago (by Tom Papp). I'm not sure where stock is in these hulls but mine is all the way back against the transom but not through it. I'm not sure if this would be a good thing for running in circles with this hull or not, but it obviously worked as a drag boat.
If all goes well with the carbs Sumday am. I'll try to take it to the water in the afternoon. I hope Billy (Ironman) can get his boat running Saterday so I can have a safty / tow boat and someone to get some shots of it underway so I can see what its doing. If not I'll go over there Sunday and lend a hand on his boat so we can make it next week.
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Well it got wet today for the first time, and it was, well...... interesting :-\ .
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First off it wouldn't start :banghead: , no fuel pressure. Had to blow into one of the tanks to prime the pump again. I think I know what I did wrong there. I put filters between the tanks and the T , because I wasn't sure how clean the tanks were. And I think the electric pump doesn't like the filters there. I was thinking that coming down the ramp (forward) the pickups in the tanks uncovered (less than half full) and then the pump wouldn't prime again without some help. Easy fix, move the filters.
Got it fired up, idled around to the other side of the dock and steele211 asks, where are your water dumps. No water is coming out of the transom. Forgot to turn on the water from the pump ::). Easy fix, open the valve :banghead: . Forgot to mention after I opened the valve I fired it back up while he held me at the dock (diverter all the way down and in reverse ::) ) and I kinda sprayed him (sorry bro ;D ). About now I'm starting to feel like an idiot newbie.
We head out, get to the end of the "no wake" zone, and I roll into it. Wooohooo it moves ;D ;D. It jumps right up on the water, cool. Running along about 2500rpm and its porpoising a bit with the diverter all the way down :sly: . My great idea, go faster :banghead:, this crazy boat trys to hop all the way out of the water at about 35 mph, that was a bad plan. Back to the dock.
I hang off the side of the dock and drop the outer plates 1 1/2 turnes on the turnbuckles. Get ready to head back out and my "boat bitch" asks if I can add some kind of bull riding strap under the seat for the next trip >:( . Back out in open water and I hit it again. This boat leaves way harder than the old boat, pops right up on the water and flattens out (a bit), This thing really likes to fly the bow !! Diverter about half way and all is OK. My first thought, Hammer it !!! :o 5100 rpm >:( and 62mph >:( running like crap. These carbs need help, still wont open the secondaries. It feels like its dragging a sea anchor when you lift. And still rides bow high, Even with the plates wayyyyy down and at only 62 mph you could feel the hull was really trying to air out. Its going to take some work, but I think it will be OK, its just going to take lots of testing.
Now for the bad news, we pulled it out of the water and were shooting the shit and telling lies about haw fast we were and I noticed something bad. I was looking at the exhaust side of the heads (by the headers) and could see an even discoloration of the new paint above the ports (normal) except for #4, no discoloration, the paint looked fresh. :sly: Checked the oil.............. milkshake :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:. I was thinking it was an intake gasket (again) from the last run in the old boat. Strange thing is I pulled the plugs when I got home and it looks normal. I was expecting it to look clean from water. I'm going to do some checking this week and see whats going on.
The fun continues :sly:
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i like the way it sits in the water....my hallet is identical to this boat and i have tried to imagine what it would look like when floating.
now im kinda excited to start workin on the hallet....finally ;D
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I was really surprised how high it sits, you can see in the pics that almost 1/3 of the pump is above water. And the one time it died coming into the no wake zone, no water came over the transom. ;D
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Once again looks good in the water keep use posted on the next test run.
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I hope everything is good with the engine. I was wondering if that spoon shape would make it want to pourpois with out some extra down on the plates or extra speed to get it up on the hump. I'm definately going to do adjustable plates on mine. I think once it is up and running on the spoon it won't need the down in those plates. Do you think the setback contributes to the nose high attitude? Like it is riding behind the peak of the spoon and you need to get it to push up on top of that peak before it will sit level?
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SnoC653, I must have been asleep when I set the plates (about 1 am) the night before the run. I just crawled out from under there and as of now (after cranking them down at the lake) the outer plates are 2 deg down, the ride plate is at the same angle as the shoe (tapered) 2deg up (compared to the hull directly next to the back of the intake. I might of had them at 0 or higher for the first run :-\ . I'm also thinking the tapered shoe is way to aggressive for my use.
As far as the set back, I know Tom (JBP) had some luck with his rocker project boat buy shortening up the pump (went from a droop to a straight snoot and then to a standard set up and it got better each time, if I remember right :-\ ) .
Like it is riding behind the peak of the spoon and you need to get it to push up on top of that peak before it will sit level?
I had to think about that for a while. But, that's a very interesting way to think about it !!! That would explain why Brian had the motor set so far forward. And with all the weight I added to to the back (fuel tanks and motor farther back) it might need some transom lift. It did seem to like the diverter set slightly down.
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Well I'm sure your all just sitting on the edges of your seats waiting for more info about this thing so here are today's progress (?) pics. :-\
Somethings missing here ???
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Oh, here it is.
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Something missing here too ??? .
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Its getting some top secret, don't ask don't tell, pump changes ;D ;D And a few "little" changes in the motor. :-X :-X
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I call BULLS*IT, your shhiiiat is broke ;D see ya in the morning
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Wow, I guess your pump is set back. Mine is 4 inches in front of the transom and you look to be 2 to 3 inches behind it. Hope you get it all back together and get back out on the water. Can't wait to see what top secret tricks you have up your sleeve. Good luck!
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I call BULLS*IT, your shhiiiat is broke ;D see ya in the morning
Broken or not, thats not the issue here. ;)
Its not making enough power and changes need to be made. >:D
Wow, I guess your pump is set back. Mine is 4 inches in front of the transom and you look to be 2 to 3 inches behind it. Hope you get it all back together and get back out on the water. Can't wait to see what top secret tricks you have up your sleeve. Good luck!
We need to talk. I'm on my way to work but I'll send you a message tonight.
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Broken or not, thats not the issue here. ;)
Its not making enough power and changes need to be made. >:D
You only need to change one thing..........................from this :screwy: to this(https://forum.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd269%2F2savage4you%2F5170b0793dc8705a.jpg&hash=cd60147ddd4abf69a115cb32c8ec42c268c605f6)
I love ya man :-* I know you got something up your tainted sleeve >:D
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Broken or not, thats not the issue here. ;)
Its not making enough power and changes need to be made. >:D
Alright Proppy, I got the top secret vortex exhaust ramps done in the heads >:D. Come buy the shop in the morning and pick em up. This thing has already tried to fly off the welding table twice today. Maaaaannnn this boat is goin to haul some AAASSSSSSSSS biatches..... ;D
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You only need to change one thing..........................from this :screwy: to this(https://forum.socaljetboats.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi223.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd269%2F2savage4you%2F5170b0793dc8705a.jpg&hash=cd60147ddd4abf69a115cb32c8ec42c268c605f6)
I love ya man :-* I know you got something up your tainted sleeve >:D
Keep your little bow ties out of my thread, youngster !! We don't need any of that propaganda over here. ::)
As far as something up my sleeve, Well.......... lets just say that after a lot of thinking, measuring and talking with people with more smarts than me. I think I understand what this hull wants and what I did wrong, if this works I should see some real improvements in speed. Or its going to toss my azz into the water. :-\
Alright Proppy, I got the top secret vortex exhaust ramps done in the heads >:D. Come buy the shop in the morning and pick em up. This thing has already tried to fly off the welding table twice today. Maaaaannnn this boat is goin to haul some AAASSSSSSSSS biatches..... ;D
Stop giving the secrets away, and get back to work and cut some rail kits. If that water jet aint sprayin it aint makein money.
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Proppy, I got nuthin but encouragement. That is a beautiful boat. FYI, I've been told that an electric fuel pump should be mounted below the fuel level of the tanks if at all possible. In fact, my new Holley is mounted to the pump plate that Billy cut and has the pump end well below the bottom of the tanks so they tanks "siphon" and don't lose the prime. I'll try to snap some pics of my project if it would help.... Good luck.........john
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Thanks John, I was thinking about moving mine down on the pump brace too. If it has any issues priming after moving the filters, that's where its going. The strange thing is my old boat had its pump mounted on the back of the terminal strip on top of the bell housing and never had a problem. Maybe its an issue with the Holley pumps, the old boat used a Carter pump.
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Electric pumps in general are designed to push fuel and work best if they don't have to pull fuel.
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Its not making enough power and changes need to be made. >:D
That's what I'm talking about!
Boat looks great!
My question ... did you leave the motor where I had it? I had to move it that far forward due to the blown alcohol dealio to keep the nose down (weight forward). If you left it there, you might be fighting gravity (boat starts to get on plane behind the rocker and then is too heavy due to motor placement and drops back down? then the porpousing starts?)
I still would like to help if you can ever make a trip down. You should plan a trip to lower river this summer!
Again, looks great! You have a blast with it.
Brian
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Jeff , Rhonda sent your Impy out yesterday The Brown truck should have it for ya today ! Tom
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Sorry guys, didn't see your replies until now.
Brian, the motor is about 6 or so inches back from where you had it. Your right though, I might need to slide it back a bit more with my (modest) power. Its going back together now and I'm going to try some of your other suggestions before moving the motor (it looks to good where it is ::) ). I think I'm going to have some new decals made for it and name this thing "Balancing Act" , or "teeter totter" ::).
Tom, (as you already know) I got the impellers, and other parts. Thanks for the "hook up".
Its on its way back together,
Motor is back together and in the boat again. The water issue was leaky intake gaskets (again) probably from the old boat. And a pin sized hole in the wall of the #4 exhaust port (injecting water into the port), Some idiot got a bit to excited porting the heads (me :-[) but all is well now.
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I added a water bypass valve (just in case) this time.
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I also picked up a new impeller and a split bowl (with some secret work done >:D). Now I can try some of Busbys set up suggestions on this little bit## and see if I can make it happy again. Happy happy joy joy, now I get to polish another bowl :banghead: .
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I also picked up a new impeller and a split bowl (with some secret work done >:D). Now I can try some of Busbys set up suggestions on this little bit## and see if I can make it happy again. Happy happy joy joy, now I get to polish another bowl :banghead: .
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Dude You scored ! didn't know the youngin' gave you that bowl ! ;)
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Dude You scored ! didn't know the youngin' gave you that bowl ! ;)
Yea, he gave me the good one. ;D Thats why I didnt show the other side, top secret stuff in there. >:D Its going to break 100 now for sure.
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Yea, he gave me the good one. ;D Thats why I didnt show the other side, top secret stuff in there. >:D Its going to break 100 now for sure.
Cool , but how slow will it be OFF the trailer :sly:
-beerjet-
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Cool , but how slow will it be OFF the trailer :sly:
-beerjet-
Hmmmm, should be about as slow as yours, if I'm lucky. ;D
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If it's anything like mine?
You mean abandoned in vegas ???
-beerjet-
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Were not starting that free flatbottom thread again are we. :banghead: :banghead:
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Were not starting that free flatbottom thread again are we. :banghead: :banghead:
nah....im donating the hallet to team cold beer racing to get them back on the water and in action amongst the compjet class.
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Well boys, Its all back together now. Except for the loader (ironman is coming over to help me get it mounted). It will be back on the water next Sunday for some carb tunning and some top speed runs . Big thanks to Tom and Josh (JBP) for walking me through the pump work, hopefully I did it right. As well as Busby, GTjets, and SnoC653 for attempting to explain how this crazy hull should work, and hopefull what it wanted.
Keep yor fingers crossed for me guys, its all or nothing time. I'm bringing the plates up and I'm going to let this thing set back and fly this time. >:D
Changes include, one very worked JG bowl, a Berk droop (also worked to match the bowl), a new A impeller, a shouldered wear ring, 750 vac sec carbs replaced with a set of 660s, and the heads were repaired. Also had to replace the for/rev and diverter cables (to short), and add a steering extention. I also drilled and tapped the suction housing for some temperary pressure gauges. So I can see whats going on in there this time.
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Looks good Jeff. Takes some pics and video if you can and be carefull in that thing ;)
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Proppy, she's looking sweet . im wishin you luck out there, go let her fly ;)
Time for a new project........................isn't it ;D
Good luck bro
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looks sweet, make sure to get some good video for us and best of luck with the testing :)
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Thanks guys, I just hope this thing works this time.
Steve, I have enough projects around here to last a couple seasons (at least). The Daytona is next, just still haven't decided what to do with it. :-\
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Steve, I dont have enough projects around here to keep me busy, and also thought about switching to Chevy :-\
jeff, you have finally seen the light :D :D :D :D
I kinda fixed it >:D
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::) Somebody is in a good mood tonight, That order of Ford racing decals I sent you must have showed up today. ;D Remember, everyone you put on your boat will add 5 mph.
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Well I'm officially calling it DONE ! The trailer has fenders (that wont fly off). And I finally got some time to finish up a few things on it. I'm sure it will still need more work on the setup, but I'm done building. I took it out to Moms house today, ran some water through it and did some tuning on the carbs. It was late afternoon before I was done. So, it will be next weekend before it gets wet again. I'll post some pics when it gets wet. I just hope this thing works this time. :-\
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The only thing missing is a SoCal Jet Boats sticker (hint, hint, Brad ;))
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That thing looks absolutely incredible! Good work Proppy! I hope she runs as good as she looks!
Ray
Didn't notice it before, but I love how you did the o/b dumps! That's VERY cool!
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:thumbup: sexy :thumbup:
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Thanks guys, I cant wait to get wet again. Its going to be a loooooooong week. Cough, cough, I think I feel a sick day coming. ;D
Ray, I cant take credit for the dumps. The bottom 2 are the original dump holes, they were just covered up when I got it. The top right was the one Busby was using, and the other one I added for the bypass reg.
BTW Ray, You need to get to work on that Hallet. Its the same hull as this.
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BTW Ray, You need to get to work on that Hallet. Its the same hull as this.
We're werkin out the details of who's doing what on it. Then we're just gonna compromise and do it my way, lol. Should be back over at my buds next week to start the grinding/recapping, glassing in where the Jacuzzi intake and transom adaptor were. Then paint before I get it back and cut it up for the Berk setup. I'm hoping it goes pretty quick. Still undecided on powerplants. Can go any way I want on this one, and think I'm gonna surprise everyone with what we're leaning towards.....
Ray
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drag that bitch down to big river this weekend damnit >:D
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Jeff, dayum bro she's hot!!!!
As usual a job well done .... Hoping for some high #'s and great handling for ya ;)
Oh by the way, the post master general called and said they had to confiscate Those stickers you sent me...
He said ill have no graffiti passed through my post office :sly:
Not on my watch O0
;D ;D ;D
2chevy :-*
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boat turned out badassssss, hope it handles great and runs better for you :thumbup: ;D
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::) Somebody is in a good mood tonight, That order of Ford racing decals I sent you must have showed up today. ;D Remember, everyone you put on your boat will add 5 mph.
Well said Proppy ;D Those cheby guys just dont seem to have a clue >:D Very nice job on that ride, shes lookin badass :thumbup:
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Dizzy'll be on the right end in all MY boats? Dun understand the Ford Chebby thing....... ???
Ray
BTW, STILL impressed with that boat Jeff! D/l pics into my phone and was showing them around at work today. You may have a fan club!
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Well Proppy ??? Us Ford guys just dont seem to have a clue >:D Very nice job on that ride, shes lookin badass but you should have put a chebbie in it :thumbup:
??? ::)
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Ahhh man Steve, now you went and done it ;D Ive seen where you been doing your little digs here and there, TRYING to bash fords, it AINT working ;D ;D ;D You get your boat wet yet ??? ??? Alot of fords I see are getting wet :D
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Proppy, if it drives/runs even 1/3 as good as it looks, you better bring a change of shorts!
Where you taking it? I'll buy the lunch! :thumbup:
GT
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Looking Sweet ! Jeff , Nice work ! Tom Rhonda and Josh
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Ahhh man Steve, now you went and done it ;D Ive seen where you been doing your little digs here and there, TRYING to bash fords, it AINT working ;D ;D ;D You get your boat wet yet ??? ??? Alot of fords I see are getting wet :D
Hell never get that thing wet, except in the driveway. :screwy: He's to afraid it will live up its Chevy heritage and float "Like A Rock" !! ;D ;D
JK Steve, I hope someday you get a day off work to have some fun. You've earned it.
Proppy, if it drives/runs even 1/3 as good as it looks, you better bring a change of shorts!
Where you taking it? I'll buy the lunch! :thumbup:
GT
I really hope it works this time and doesn't try to act like Flipper on crack, again. :-\
The plan (so far) is Pine Flat early Sunday. Smooth water, and only the fishermen can laugh at me if things go badly. :-\
Looking Sweet ! Jeff , Nice work ! Tom Rhonda and Josh
BTW Tom, Those baffles didnt do a damn thing to quiet this beast down. I like it !! ;D ;D
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BTW Tom, Those baffles didnt do a damn thing to quiet this beast down. I like it !!
I told Nordie the same thing 2 weeks ago about the Baffles I removed from the Bassett's I sent him and tried in the Rewarders on the Moo! He doesn't beleive me! Made no difference other than robbing RPM!
Good to know there's other's with the same opinion! lol.
Ray
So now I drilled holes in the bottom of the rewarders for no apparent reason! lol.
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Ray, The old corkscrew style I had in the Lancer did a good job quieting it down, but they absolutely killed the power. These new ones from Tom don't do much as far as quieting it down (I ordered the shortest ones he had), so hopefully they wont cost much power.
Just a side note, These short headers look really cool (to me), but be warned people. They spit nasty dirty water all over the transom if you run them wet. :banghead:
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NAw, I'm an open header kinda guy. My acute hearing long gone from hot rodding that way and too much gunfire without protection, music, etc. I tried the baffles only because of Saguaro lake here I was TOLD was more strict than regulations were. WRONGO!, but that's another matter. Anyway, put them in, then took them right back out (They're still in the truck I think) . Told Nordie they made shit bit o difference to me, only robbed RPM's.
Nordie says I'm just deaf (I don't think that's the case, but close) and a liar because the open headers I sent him, apparently, made his Mohawk stand up like morning wood I guess! lol
Woulda loved to have seen that, lol. (Talk about a Kodak moment!)
Ray
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Jeff Per your PM , yes as an objective observers Josh and I (as you know ) have been watching this for some time , The good news I honestly belive this can be corrected and make this a "palatable" Lake boat Completely under stand the frustration and Heart ache This much is true This can be corrected ! Tom
FWIW there were clearly some inconsistacies in the representation of this IMO , and thats a standard Berk 4* intake not a low profile
I say Lets not be defeated by this lets fix it ! Set the jet back drop the intake and move the motor back as far as allowed a couple days work You pull the motor and the Jet , let Josh set the intake ,!
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Quick thread jack...mohawk is long gone I'm bald now...continuing on...ill be looking forward to seeing the result on how the boat runs proppy...hopefully a good read while I'm trying to recouperate from destroying my liver this coming up weekend
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Just so everybody knows and you dont think Toms previous post was off the wall. After installing the droop and looking at things for awhile, there seems to be some issues with this thing (the droop made it more noticeable). At this point I'm not sure what I'm going to do about it. I still plan to take it out Sunday, and see what it does. As far as what the problem is, it has to do with the amount of rocker this hull has and the fact that it has a set back pump. Moving the pump back put the intake farther back on the rocker and gave it some issues to deal with. As it is now the hull wants to set all the way back on the rideplate and really fly. This may have worked in the past with the massive power it had and as an all out drag boat, but it never had to cruise to the hang out spot. Busby and the late Tom Papp had this thing set up to be an all or nothing boat. They did what needed to be done to get it run as fast as it did, multiple passes over 121mph. Unfortunately I dont have that kind of power and I do need it to behave in at least a semi reasonable manner for the trip from the ramp to the hang out spot (and back) without having to tow it around and just make passes with it.
Bottom line is, not to many people would buy an old blown alcohol drag car and try to turn it into a daily driver. But thats exactly what I'm doing with this thing. :screwy:
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Bottom line is, not to many people would buy an old blown alcohol drag car and try to turn it into a daily driver. But thats exactly what I'm doing with this thing. :screwy:
Say it aint so Jeff , you mean that wild Willy Borcsh Altered I bought cant be Driven on El Camino Real as the JBP delivery truck ??? WTF
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Now if I had that motor this thing would work. :(
But I still have a few secret ideas up my sleeve that might help tame this thing. If all else fails I saved a spot in front of the batt that's just the right size for a nitrous bottle. >:D
Just a reminder for those that don't remember where this boat came from, hears a crappy old pic from when Busby owned it.
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Any updates Proppy? My son and I are following this thread for inspiration and information for his ride.
Good luck........john
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Still fighting with it John, Its been on the water every weekend and its making small improvements here and there. I'm not giving up on it, I will make this thing work somehow !! Here's a pic someone from over on PB took from Mendota last weekend. Couldn't really get any feedback from the set up changes because it decided to run like crap :banghead: . As soon as I get it figured out I'll let you know what it wanted, might be helpfull info for the Sanger.
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Hang in there Jeff, atleast it looks like your having a good time doing it ;D
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Where the hell is, and what is Mendota Slough? Looks like a good place to boat.
Skip
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You know I wont give up Steve, I'm way to stubborn to let the boat win !!!!
Skip, Its just east of Mendota on 180. Not really sure where the water comes from, but I really liked the place. No rollbar boats/wake barges, they would be stuck between the bridges where the ramp is (very small area, and low bridges ;D), I didn't get to explore the place but I was told it goes on for a long way.
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Still fighting with it John, Its been on the water every weekend and its making small improvements here and there. I'm not giving up on it, I will make this thing work somehow !! Here's a pic someone from over on PB took from Mendota last weekend. Couldn't really get any feedback from the set up changes because it decided to run like crap :banghead: . As soon as I get it figured out I'll let you know what it wanted, might be helpfull info for the Sanger.
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Damn, that looks nice!!!!! Good luck with the challenge and I'm certain you'll figg'r it out. We have lots of time as my sons regular gig has all but dried up so he's working at a bike custom shop and the money is not the same.
I'm planning on getting my pig wet this weekend and hope to have some pics as well. Thanks again and please keep us posted on your efforts (good n bad) to tame the wild thang.... We're right behind you ;D
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Skip, Its just east of Mendota on 180. Not really sure where the water comes from, but I really liked the place. No rollbar boats/wake barges, they would be stuck between the bridges where the ramp is (very small area, and low bridges ;D), I didn't get to explore the place but I was told it goes on for a long way.
Oops, what I should have said was, its a terrible place to take a boat and we all decided to NEVER go back !! Its full of mosquitoes and man eating fish. Not to mention the water kinda burns your skin and dissolves fiberglass. :o
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Oops, what I should have said was, its a terrible place to take a boat and we all decided to NEVER go back !! Its full of mosquitoes and man eating fish. Not to mention the water kinda burns your skin and dissolves fiberglass. :o
Sounds perfect then. O0
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the water kinda burns your skin and dissolves fiberglass. :o
That place doesn't look like Elsinore, hmmm I think you're pulling my leg maybe :sly:
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Oops, what I should have said was, its a terrible place to take a boat and we all decided to NEVER go back !! Its full of mosquitoes and man eating fish. Not to mention the water kinda burns your skin and dissolves fiberglass. :o
Is it a water treatment facility? :D
Ray
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Well boys, I found my HP issue.
After 8 yrs of faithfull service the Mighty BBF is hurt. :'( :'( It was down to 4100rpm yesterday and sounded bad doing it. I pulled the valve covers tonight and found a handful of rockers with lots and lots of "clearance". Looks like it ate the cam.
Now I'm boatless again., in the middle of summer, AGAIN !!!! SON OF A ##### !!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I'm not sure what the plan will be yet. I need to talk to my motor guy, but I do know I need more power. Might go for a BIG stroker, or something bottle fed, or both !! >:D
Anybody have a blower manifold for a 460 sitting around ? >:D ;D
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Well boys, I found my HP issue.
After 8 yrs of faithfull service the Mighty BBF is hurt. :'( :'( It was down to 4100rpm yesterday and sounded bad doing it. I pulled the valve covers tonight and found a handful of rockers with lots and lots of "clearance". Looks like it ate the cam.
Now I'm boatless again., in the middle of summer, AGAIN !!!! SON OF A ##### !!!!!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I'm not sure what the plan will be yet. I need to talk to my motor guy, but I do know I need more power. Might go for a BIG stroker, or something bottle fed, or both !! >:D
Anybody have a blower manifold for a 460 sitting around ? >:D ;D
What bout summit cam and lifters for 100 bucks ;D
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Anybody have a blower manifold for a 460 sitting around ?
Not yet, But I'm sure I will end up with one eventually (Got one of nearly everything else methinks). I'll keep an eye out fer ya!
Ray
I'm told that once you get a good "Blower", you'll never be the same tho......................Lord I hope it wasn't Beerjet that told me that...................................
Edit: FWIW, also have a cam and lifter set you can have, only 20 minutes run time, from the original tossed rod engine from the Moo. Looks fine, but have no idea what make or grind it is, but it's yours to try Jeff if you need it. (Might get you in the water quick!, was supposed to be a hot lil number according to the PO) I'll try and get pics tomorrow or Wednesday of it.
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Not yet, But I'm sure I will end up with one eventually (Got one of nearly everything else methinks). I'll keep an eye out fer ya!
Ray
I'm told that once you get a good "Blower", you'll never be the same tho......................Lord I hope it wasn't Beerjet that told me that...................................
LOL, funny thing is, that sounds like a Beerjet quote. ;D
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Bump ;D
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What bout summit cam and lifters for 100 bucks ;D
Edit: FWIW, also have a cam and lifter set you can have, only 20 minutes run time, from the original tossed rod engine from the Moo. Looks fine, but have no idea what make or grind it is, but it's yours to try Jeff if you need it. (Might get you in the water quick!, was supposed to be a hot lil number according to the PO) I'll try and get pics tomorrow or Wednesday of it.
I really appreciate the offers guys !!! But, there's something really wrong with it this time. I really don't understand what the problem is, but I cranked it over to check compression a few days later (5 cylinders at 170, 2 at 165, 1 at just under 165) not bad for an 8 year old motor. And all of a sudden after checking the first cylinder, all the rockers where tight again and everything looked normal :sly:. I know for sure the lifters werent collapsed like that when it was running (would have been really noisy) so it had to do it after it was shut down. Bad thing is the oil was full of powdered metal, and it was all the way up in the heads (went through the motor). I didn't see it up there at first, but when I was cleaning things up there was a layer of it under the oil in all the little recesses in the heads. :'( Its OK, Ive got a floaty chair for the pool where I can make vroom vroom noises, and the boat wanted more power anyway, and it made it home !!!! Cant swing a new motor build for it right now so it has to wait for winter. This is going to an expensive winter. ;)
The good news is this gives me more time to be on here and provide 2sav with as much "motivation" as needed until he gets that boat of his wet !!!! >:D >:D
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Well I finally tore into the motor and found a dead cam. One intake valve had a total of 1/4" of valve lift. There were a few others that didnt look to good either. New parts are on there way (just a basic little cam, almost stock ::)) and it should be back together soon. I took a look at a few rod/main bearings while its apart and everything looks great in there. I guess I got lucky, all the missing metal from the cam and lifters is in the bottom of the pan. I really cant believe how much abuse this poor old motor has taken and it still always gets me back to the ramp ;D.
Fear not Ford fans, The MIGHTY BBF will be back in action soon, breathing fire and kicking Cheby azz all over the waters of the central valley !!!! >:D
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Great to hear Jeff! Should be in the water again quick!
Ray
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I hope so Ray. I'm shooting for Labor day, I need to get back out to Mendota and show those guys what this thing can do when it runs on all 8 !!! >:D
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Just swap out the motor for something that will always get you back to the ramp and enjoy your day on the water...a Paddle!
And you thought I was going to say a BBC ;)
Glad to hear that it wasnt a major overhaul that was needed.
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Dang, I'm late to a thread again.
Speaking of shooting, I think the hack who put in that carpet should be shot. I hate that kind of crap.
That black gooey stuff is called cutback and probably a vinyl adhesive. It's a bitch. Using solvents is NOT a good idea. I've used dry ice before (scrapes up better when frozen) but in the confines of a boat this is not a good idea. Scraping is better than sanding. Still a hard job no matter which way you go. I'd cover it up it it weren't for the wood floor.